5 OMAHA NAPS HULL DC 2 2

[paulhouk03]

i have about 260ish villian has about 800-900 reg pretty solid player.
I have only played 2 hands
winning both times
i am pretty tight

villian is a solid reg.

3 callers to the flop of £4 each
button completes
i am in the big blind with AA789 ( ace and 8 are hearts)
Should I pot here?
Or see a flop and hope I hit it hard.

i am not that good at omaha but i think you can be a winning player in hull if u play pretty ABC

[boldie]

live no-one folds no matter what you do. If you pot you'll find yourself OOP in a hand against multiple oppos.

I stick an extra tenner in and hope to hit the flop hard...but won't get married to the hand as I'm still OOP.

[Simon Galloway]

Check.  Lots of good things can happen on the flop, your hand is better disguised as a random hand and it shouldn't be too hard to get your stack all in with a typical lively omaha game anyway.  It is hard to play a big pot OOP against solid players, most times if you bang it from the BB you will have a £50 pot out there and be check folding, or reluctantly playing for stacks against unknown hands where they have a very good idea of half your hand.

[cia260895]

Check to see the flop

[boldie]

I should point out that I obv play a lot more hands than AA only...if you've only played 2 hands you've been nut peddling so if you raise it up now there is a fair chance that people will take you for a big hand (AA)...play more hands and you 'll have tonnes more options

[paulhouk03]

I should point out that I obv play a lot more hands than AA only...if you've only played 2 hands you've been nut peddling so if you raise it up now there is a fair chance that people will take you for a big hand (AA)...play more hands and you 'll have tonnes more options

been at the table for 10 mins or so just played one orbit of 6 players.

[boldie]

I should point out that I obv play a lot more hands than AA only...if you've only played 2 hands you've been nut peddling so if you raise it up now there is a fair chance that people will take you for a big hand (AA)...play more hands and you 'll have tonnes more options

been at the table for 10 mins or so just played one orbit of 6 players.

ah OK...excellent. Then stick your tenner in and people souldn't automatically take you for AA...

[paulhouk03]

Check to see the flop

if you wouldnt raise with AA789 pre flop what would you raise with?

[boldie]

Check to see the flop

if you wouldnt raise with AA789 pre flop what would you raise with?

I think he mainly doesn't raise because of position...not because his hand isn't good enough.

[paulhouk03]

Check to see the flop

if you wouldnt raise with AA789 pre flop what would you raise with?

I think he mainly doesn't raise because of position...not because his hand isn't good enough.

i meant would hands would you raise with then?

i dont think its a great hand to raise oop but iwould still like to knoow what he would raise with in that position

[Simon Galloway]

Not raising any hands at all from the blinds wouldn't be a bad strategy for many.  Obviously there are exceptions like when the pot is already swollen and you can get most of it in with a raise.  But playing oop deep with a semi-transparent holding is more of a headache than any benefit you get with raising from the blind.  If you play particularly well post flop and have enough history with the players that they have seen you do this with middling run down hands and other funky stuff that has actually reached showdown from time to time, go ahead and raise.  But most oppo's will call your raise and proceed on the basis that you have aces a lot of the time. 

[paulhouk03]

Not raising any hands at all from the blinds wouldn't be a bad strategy for many.  Obviously there are exceptions like when the pot is already swollen and you can get most of it in with a raise.  But playing oop deep with a semi-transparent holding is more of a headache than any benefit you get with raising from the blind.  If you play particularly well post flop and have enough history with the players that they have seen you do this with middling run down hands and other funky stuff that has actually reached showdown from time to time, go ahead and raise.  But most oppo's will call your raise and proceed on the basis that you have aces a lot of the time. 

this is 5 card omaha
any funky hand can win

how is it semi transparant?
does a squeeze mean he has aces or high pair?


tricky game
or is the best tactic to see flops and play bingo oop

[boldie]

Simon[/url] Galloway link=topic=41044.msg932809#msg932809 date=1238500429]
Not raising any hands at all from the blinds wouldn't be a bad strategy for many.  Obviously there are exceptions like when the pot is already swollen and you can get most of it in with a raise.  But playing oop deep with a semi-transparent holding is more of a headache than any benefit you get with raising from the blind.  If you play particularly well post flop and have enough history with the players that they have seen you do this with middling run down hands and other funky stuff that has actually reached showdown from time to time, go ahead and raise.  But most oppo's will call your raise and proceed on the basis that you have aces a lot of the time. 

A; this is 5 card omaha
any funky hand can win

B; how is it semi transparant?
does a squeeze mean he has aces or high pair?


tricky game

C
or is the best tactic to see flops and play bingo oop

A; almost put me on tilt...Any funky hand can win is.... well..erm..something that goes for Holdem as well (being very pollite here)..please don't say something like that again.

B; because you say "I have a very big hand" and a lot of people that raise from the blinds will all of a sudden have aces or kings. (bad players ussually)

C; doesn't make any sense.

Simon raises some fair points (even though I disagree with him about not raising in this case as I am looking to build the pot)

[paulhouk03]

Simon[/url] Galloway link=topic=41044.msg932809#msg932809 date=1238500429]
Not raising any hands at all from the blinds wouldn't be a bad strategy for many.  Obviously there are exceptions like when the pot is already swollen and you can get most of it in with a raise.  But playing oop deep with a semi-transparent holding is more of a headache than any benefit you get with raising from the blind.  If you play particularly well post flop and have enough history with the players that they have seen you do this with middling run down hands and other funky stuff that has actually reached showdown from time to time, go ahead and raise.  But most oppo's will call your raise and proceed on the basis that you have aces a lot of the time. 

A; this is 5 card omaha
any funky hand can win

B; how is it semi transparant?
does a squeeze mean he has aces or high pair?


tricky game

C
or is the best tactic to see flops and play bingo oop

A; almost put me on tilt...Any funky hand can win is.... well..erm..something that goes for Holdem as well (being very pollite here)..please don't say something like that again.

B; because you say "I have a very big hand" and a lot of people that raise from the blinds will all of a sudden have aces or kings. (bad players ussually)

C; doesn't make any sense.

Simon raises some fair points (even though I disagree with him about not raising in this case as I am looking to build the pot)

A. I dont see how this is soo tilting? i believe that most hands are pretty funky in omaha. there are alot more funky holdings in omaha then hold em and please dont be polite. say what u feel

B. What is a big hand in 5 omaha
aajtk?
56789?

C. how does it not make sense

[boldie]

Simon[/url] Galloway link=topic=41044.msg932809#msg932809 date=1238500429]
Not raising any hands at all from the blinds wouldn't be a bad strategy for many.  Obviously there are exceptions like when the pot is already swollen and you can get most of it in with a raise.  But playing oop deep with a semi-transparent holding is more of a headache than any benefit you get with raising from the blind.  If you play particularly well post flop and have enough history with the players that they have seen you do this with middling run down hands and other funky stuff that has actually reached showdown from time to time, go ahead and raise.  But most oppo's will call your raise and proceed on the basis that you have aces a lot of the time. 

A; this is 5 card omaha
any funky hand can win

B; how is it semi transparant?
does a squeeze mean he has aces or high pair?


tricky game

C
or is the best tactic to see flops and play bingo oop

A; almost put me on tilt...Any funky hand can win is.... well..erm..something that goes for Holdem as well (being very pollite here)..please don't say something like that again.

B; because you say "I have a very big hand" and a lot of people that raise from the blinds will all of a sudden have aces or kings. (bad players ussually)

C; doesn't make any sense.

Simon raises some fair points (even though I disagree with him about not raising in this case as I am looking to build the pot)

A. I dont see how this is soo tilting? i believe that most hands are pretty funky in omaha. there are alot more funky holdings in omaha then hold em and please dont be polite. say what u feel

B. What is a big hand in 5 omaha
aajtk?
56789?

C. how does it not make sense

Omaha has starting hand favourites in the same way that HE has (only you're slightly less favourite). Funky holdings can't really enter your mind (especially pre-flop)..If your oppo likes to play  AK 57 2 good luck to him. Yeah he could win the hand but those are the funky hands that you want to call now.

AATJK Double suited is a big hand...in the same way that 56789 DS is...(actually they are monsters..your hand is already a big hand)

the "To see flops and play bingo OOP" post doesn't make sense to me as I just don't understand your post.

For what it's worth (remarkably little if you've ever seen me play), I agree..you have a big hand and can/should raise it, to build the pot. If you need to let go on the flop (and often you do) that's fair enough..but if you hit atleast you have a chance of a very tasty pot...rather than having to play a small pot OOP if you do hit. ..and if you hit it hard noone will pay you of anymore.