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Woodsey
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DTD £250 Deepstack Turn Decision?
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April 05, 2009, 01:11:12 AM »
35 left Av chips 40k ish, I have about 55k, I have villian covered but not by much.
Blinds 600/1200 ante 100
He raises in LP to 3500, I have
in the BB I decide to Flat call.
Flop
and a low card no heart. I bet out 7k he flat calls.
Turn
. I check to see what villain does and he bets 15k, I have about 45kish behind at this point and I just cover him.
What should I do?
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thetank
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Re: DTD £250 Deepstack Turn Decision?
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April 05, 2009, 01:32:04 AM »
Pretty villain dependant.
As played, call turn against aggressive player as we've displayed weakness by slowing down on the turn so a good chance he's at it.
Against nit fold turn (obv)
I probably fold against random. Need a read to hero, as a turn call kinda commits us to stack off on most rivers
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Re: DTD £250 Deepstack Turn Decision?
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April 05, 2009, 01:36:27 AM »
Quote from: thetank on April 05, 2009, 01:32:04 AM
Pretty villain dependant.
As played, call turn against aggressive player as we've displayed weakness by slowing down on the turn so a good chance he's at it.
Against nit fold turn (obv)
I probably fold against random. Need a read to hero, as a turn call kinda commits us to stack off on most rivers
He is probably playing less than the average number of hands but made a couple of light calls earlier on v another player. Had raised in LP an average number of times.
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Re: DTD £250 Deepstack Turn Decision?
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April 05, 2009, 01:59:22 AM »
RR PRE SHOVE TURN
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April 05, 2009, 02:10:05 AM »
I am shoving here tbh, we have outs should he call.
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Re: DTD £250 Deepstack Turn Decision?
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April 05, 2009, 02:53:16 AM »
as tank said, way too villain dependant. id probs 3b pre if he was opening a decent amount.
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April 05, 2009, 12:06:56 PM »
Deffo raising pre here, as played I probably flat the turn and access on the river.
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April 05, 2009, 12:23:42 PM »
He had 77 in fact so turned a set. Calling the turn was the worst option IMO its fold or all in for me, as he had enough behind to fold, I went all in and missed.
I think in with hindsight and the suggestions on here I should have RR Pre-flop and fired the flop, if he was still in on the turn I guess GG me anyway. I'm not a big fan of RR Pre with medium pairs TBH, it just leads to too many sticky spots with over cards on the board, maybe I should reconsider this against looser players?
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Re: DTD £250 Deepstack Turn Decision?
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Quote from: Woodsey on April 05, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
He had 77 in fact so turned a set. Calling the turn was the worst option IMO its fold or all in for me, as he had enough behind to fold, I went all in and missed.
I think in with hindsight and the suggestions on here I should have RR Pre-flop and fired the flop, if he was still in on the turn I guess GG me anyway.
I'm not a big fan of RR Pre with medium pairs TBH
, it just leads to too many sticky spots with over cards on the board, maybe I should reconsider this against looser players?
just leads to a lot of shit situations oop if you just call imo, especially HU. Multiway i think much easier to just call as usually pfr is kept honest and you actually have good implied odd to stack weak hands when u flop underrepped overpair/set mine.
I think call hu is Fine if you think your reads/postflop poker is different gravy, but tough otherwise.
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Re: DTD £250 Deepstack Turn Decision?
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April 06, 2009, 02:47:52 PM »
You got into a mess here because you didn't re-raise pre-flop. If you re-raise and he pops it back at you, your nines are no longer looking great and you are able to get away from them
if you want
and still have a playable, if not ideal stack.
If he calls, this also gives you information, although it's not as clear cut, but it also slows him down when you c-bet the flop if he misses, which was the case here.
If he passes pre-flop that's hardly a bad result either.
Obviously the decisions are player dependent but it sounds like he wasn't getting out of line too much and you make no mention of him being a Norwegian, so for me a pre-flop re-raise defines his and your hands much better and actually puts you in a better spot on the flop that you received.
As played, it does look like you are in trouble to be honest. This is where a good read is helpful and hopefully you will have been watching everyone play for ages and so should have a decent idea of where he is at.
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