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« on: April 22, 2009, 12:35:43 PM »

This just appeared on stars website in the last 24 hours:

How to play WSOP* multi-table satellites

By Team PokerStars Pro Vicky Coren

http://www.pokerstars.com/wsop/strategy/

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At the start (assuming there are no rebuys), there are two ways of calculating how many chips you need. To work out the average chip count required to win a seat, divide the total chips in play by the number of seats available to be won. Or (even simpler, and this will sound like a no-brainer for anyone who’s good at maths but super-handy for anyone who isn’t) multiply the number of seats available by your starting stack. So if there are 10 seats available and you start with 1,500 in chips, average chips to win a seat will be 15,000. That’s your ultimate target, not first place.


so if there are 1000000000000 players and 10 seats all I have to do is multiply the number of seats by my starting stack to win a seat. Pretty awesome value imo.

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 12:39:45 PM »

could be poor editing maybe?
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2009, 12:47:41 PM »

Post it on THM - might get a response from her there.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2009, 12:52:05 PM »

Post it on THM - might get a response from her there.

To what end?  it's clearly an error, and anyone reading it and taking the advice at face value to try to win a seat probably shouldn't be wasting their money trying to qualify anyway!
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 12:54:55 PM »

Just been reminded of something that struck me as odd last night.  Was half watching EPT coverage on channel 4 last night and Vicky was co-commentating.  As one guy bust out of the tournament, he wished good luck to one of his table companions.  Coren made a very odd comment which I'm not going to paraphrase here in case I've remembered it wrong - anyone else see it?
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 01:06:11 PM »

Post it on THM - might get a response from her there.

To what end?  it's clearly an error, and anyone reading it and taking the advice at face value to try to win a seat probably shouldn't be wasting their money trying to qualify anyway!

To find out what she actually wrote, if it was different from the above.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2009, 01:14:11 PM »

Just been reminded of something that struck me as odd last night.  Was half watching EPT coverage on channel 4 last night and Vicky was co-commentating.  As one guy bust out of the tournament, he wished good luck to one of his table companions.  Coren made a very odd comment which I'm not going to paraphrase here in case I've remembered it wrong - anyone else see it?

Didn't see it, so paraphrase it incorrectly for us.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 01:17:37 PM »

Just been reminded of something that struck me as odd last night.  Was half watching EPT coverage on channel 4 last night and Vicky was co-commentating.  As one guy bust out of the tournament, he wished good luck to one of his table companions.  Coren made a very odd comment which I'm not going to paraphrase here in case I've remembered it wrong - anyone else see it?

Didn't see it, so paraphrase it incorrectly for us.

I can't because I may have made it much worse in my recollection than it was and I'm not about to get done for libel!  It's probably available to watch on webbie - I'll see if I can find it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 01:46:08 PM »

I am growing tired of people complaining about poor advice for fish. The Dean should be a hero in reality. Praise be to all those people who provide fish with useless and confusing information.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 01:47:06 PM »

I am growing tired of people complaining about poor advice for fish. The Dean should be a hero in reality. Praise be to all those people who provide fish with useless and confusing information.

Mantis, you're my hero.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 01:54:35 PM »

I am growing tired of people complaining about poor advice for fish. The Dean should be a hero in reality. Praise be to all those people who provide fish with useless and confusing information.

Mantis, you're my hero.

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 02:05:56 PM »

[ x ] I played 5 hours of online poker last night, then i went to bed and watched some telly

[ x ] Said poker tournament was on telly

[ ] I want to watch a televised version of what I was playing as a means of taking a break from it

[  ] EsPcIaaaaaaaLLy WIIIIIIIIIITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VickiCroren's commentatingVOIIIICE and INSIGH!!!TS!!!

[ x ] Give me PP Prem league with characters and banter, odd plays and decent commentary any day. Don't televise this other shit just to give Stars some air time.

[ x ] Nice (.)(.) though, almost compensates.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 02:18:47 PM »


In most cash satellites it actually isn't that bad a rule of thumb - its rare that you will find a sat with more than 15 buyins per seat and with a large field you should be able to get there with 2/3 average stack.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2009, 02:24:46 PM »


In most cash satellites it actually isn't that bad a rule of thumb - its rare that you will find a sat with more than 15 buyins per seat and with a large field you should be able to get there with 2/3 average stack.

if theres 15 buyins per seat, 150 players and 10 seats, then what you just said makes sense

if theres 15 buyins per seat, 1500 players and 100 seats, vickys advice is that you now need 100 times your starting stack (rather than 10 times in the example above, "multiply the number of seats available by your starting stack") even though the same % of the field are being paid.

pretty bad rule of thumb unless you contrive a situation in which it works.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2009, 02:28:46 PM »


In most cash satellites it actually isn't that bad a rule of thumb - its rare that you will find a sat with more than 15 buyins per seat and with a large field you should be able to get there with 2/3 average stack.

if theres 15 buyins per seat, 150 players and 10 seats, then what you just said makes sense

if theres 15 buyins per seat, 1500 players and 100 seats, vickys advice is that you now need 100 times your starting stack (rather than 10 times in the example above, "multiply the number of seats available by your starting stack") even though the same % of the field are being paid.

pretty bad rule of thumb unless you contrive a situation in which it works.

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