AK Preflop

[snoopy1239]

That's the logic anyhow, but I think you should only make it if there's a storng possibility that he called the flop with AK, and that he isn't capable of spotting your bluff and reraising with it.

If I check, then he may bluff me out with an AQ or AK holding.

[jezza777]

I think your main problen here is that you have just joiined the table, mebbe you should play safe for a bit , take a flop with a call and fold if you miss. When you know more about you opponents you can begin to play them better. I mean just half an hour so you know their tightness and stuff just gives you a better chance of a positive outcome. Both from this pot and the session.

[snoopy1239]

I think your main problen here is that you have just joiined the table, mebbe you should play safe for a bit , take a flop with a call and fold if you miss. When you know more about you opponents you can begin to play them better. I mean just half an hour so you know their tightness and stuff just gives you a better chance of a positive outcome. Both from this pot and the session.

Agreed.

I need to know what he could call my preflop reraise with, whether he would call the flop bet with AK, and if he was capable of rerasing my river bluff with nothing.

The next time it happened, on another table, I just flatcalled.

I missed the flop again, but saved a little more money.

[snoopy1239]

ps. I also bet the river because he checked the turn, which made me think that perhaps he had AK after all and could be made to fold.

[thetank]

<note to self> call tigmong's preflop raises with garbage then when he misses and checks down on turn and river stick in bluff bet on river to take pot......

tigmong doesn't play nl cash on t'internet.
he plays tournaments and rarely has a big enough stack in relation to the blinds to play AK in this manner.

[thetank]

I made that river bet so I could take the pot if he has AK.

If I had AK on the river and someone bet half what they bet on the flop after checking the turn, I'd usually raise them. He might have had AK and taken the pot off you.

[thetank]

I put him on either JJ, QQ, or AK.

So I thought it was worth $15 trying to steal a big pot if he doesn't have the overpair.

I think QQ and JJ would have probably put in a bet on the turn after you checked. I think he had AK.

[jezza777]

I had a think about the river bet and the problem with it is that it isn't big enouigh in relation to the pot to take anyone off any type of a hand . I call you down here with a high. So that means if you bet you will only recieve action from a hand that beats you. His reraise all in on the end is suspect as your bet looks to me like a value bet with the flush . Of course i call here with JJ but I dont know where he found a reraise from.
Interesting hand.

[Bongo]

ps. I also bet the river because he checked the turn, which made me think that perhaps he had AK after all and could be made to fold.

Or he may have a pair, figured out what you have and be inducing the bluff (and saving money if he's behind!)

[snoopy1239]

who says he has JJ?

[rivered]

i think he had mid pair, hit trips and was waiting for you to hand yourself....

you bet exactly as i would've, except for the river bet which i'm not sure about - i don't think you'd knock many people off even if they had AK with that size bet, except for really really good players who'd probably figure you have a strong hand and are enticing the bet.

[snoopy1239]

I agree. I think he made a loose call preflop, hit trips, and was hoping that I'd keep pushing an overpair.

His check on the turn is very odd.

If he has QQ or JJ, then why is he letting me in cheap after I have virtually given up the hand?

or

If he has AK or AQ, then why is he not making a bluff after I have virtually given up the hand?

Plus, to go all-in at the river suggest that he could well be holding a monster.

[jezza777]

who says he has JJ?

I thought it was in the hand history?

[snoopy1239]

but then again, wouldn't he just flatcall because of the flush possibility?

How about this:  Ah

What u reckon?

[snoopy1239]

who says he has JJ?

I thought it was in the hand history?

lol - that's the chat

and it's my chat.