Neil Channing announces Black Belt team LIVE on the Poker Show tonight

[The Camel]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

[MC]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Very well put.

[Madone]

Im i really that bad? maybe they needed a couple of idiots in it to make it seem like they were giving everyone a chance so they asked me to do it....and i can see why my bro Ben Vinson dropped out as he 100% was not going to get a brown belt when he obv is the best live comp player , well on a par probably with riverdave and jerome.

[Rupert]

congrats everyone, might be joining you all in the next one we shall see

[MC]

[ ] Am glad I decided not to play Heads UP STTs during the grading
[ ] Was told profit would be such a key factor and everything else would be essentially disregarded

[celtic]

Was it based mainly on profit?

[Rupert]

is there a profit breakdown somewhere? would make good reading but probs isn't available lol

[I KNOW IT]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Then it would have to be run over a longer period than just a month, perhaps with the setting up of BBP and the WSOP starting maybe they didnt have enough time to do it that way.

[The Camel]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Then it would have to be run over a longer period than just a month, perhaps with the setting up of BBP and the WSOP starting maybe they didnt have enough time to do it that way.

50 graders:

End of week 1: lose 10.. 40 left
End of week 2: lose 10.. 30 left
End of week 3: lose 10.. 20 left
End of week 4: 12 blue belts, 8 brown belts.

What is wrong with this model?

[Royal Flush]

wiiiiiiiiiiii well done Kev son!

To all those who trialled and lost, mugs!

[Dry em]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Then it would have to be run over a longer period than just a month, perhaps with the setting up of BBP and the WSOP starting maybe they didnt have enough time to do it that way.

50 graders:

End of week 1: lose 10.. 40 left
End of week 2: lose 10.. 30 left
End of week 3: lose 10.. 20 left
End of week 4: 12 blue belts, 8 brown belts.

What is wrong with this model?

I think maybe you'd struggle to make a true decision about someone in a week - maybe they run bad, and maybe part of the selection process is seeing how people recover from and respond to this. Also from a business point of view I can think of some distinct financial reasons why this would not be as attractive a proposition

[I KNOW IT]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Then it would have to be run over a longer period than just a month, perhaps with the setting up of BBP and the WSOP starting maybe they didnt have enough time to do it that way.

50 graders:

End of week 1: lose 10.. 40 left
End of week 2: lose 10.. 30 left
End of week 3: lose 10.. 20 left
End of week 4: 12 blue belts, 8 brown belts.

What is wrong with this model?

I think maybe you'd struggle to make a true decision about someone in a week - maybe they run bad, and maybe part of the selection process is seeing how people recover from and respond to this. Also from a business point of view I can think of some distinct financial reasons why this would not be as attractive a proposition

This.


Thats why I stated there wasnt enough time before the WSOP starting to extend the trial period, which I think you would need to use your model Keith. 1 week is definately not long enough to give you a true picture on what is going to be a long term investment

[The Camel]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Then it would have to be run over a longer period than just a month, perhaps with the setting up of BBP and the WSOP starting maybe they didnt have enough time to do it that way.

50 graders:

End of week 1: lose 10.. 40 left
End of week 2: lose 10.. 30 left
End of week 3: lose 10.. 20 left
End of week 4: 12 blue belts, 8 brown belts.

What is wrong with this model?

I think maybe you'd struggle to make a true decision about someone in a week - maybe they run bad, and maybe part of the selection process is seeing how people recover from and respond to this. Also from a business point of view I can think of some distinct financial reasons why this would not be as attractive a proposition

From what I can gather from reading the bbp grading board and this thread there is some serious annoyance and disgruntlement among the graders who have missed out altogether.

I wouldn't be suprised if a fair % of them would choose never to play on the bbp skin ever again.

In my model you would obviously lose alot of rake but keep the loyalty of more players. ie not killing the goose that laid the golden egg..

(Maybe start the grading at a higher level so you get the most rake from the 50?)

[I KNOW IT]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Then it would have to be run over a longer period than just a month, perhaps with the setting up of BBP and the WSOP starting maybe they didnt have enough time to do it that way.

50 graders:

End of week 1: lose 10.. 40 left
End of week 2: lose 10.. 30 left
End of week 3: lose 10.. 20 left
End of week 4: 12 blue belts, 8 brown belts.

What is wrong with this model?

I think maybe you'd struggle to make a true decision about someone in a week - maybe they run bad, and maybe part of the selection process is seeing how people recover from and respond to this. Also from a business point of view I can think of some distinct financial reasons why this would not be as attractive a proposition

From what I can gather from reading the bbp grading board and this thread there is some serious annoyance and disgruntlement among the graders who have missed out altogether.

I wouldn't be suprised if a fair % of them would choose never to play on the bbp skin ever again.

In my model you would obviously lose alot of rake but keep the loyalty of more players. ie not killing the goose that laid the golden egg..

(Maybe start the grading at a higher level so you get the most rake from the 50?)

I dont think this grading was set up just to get people on there for the rake was it?
I guess a lot of this grading was a " suck it and see" and i think there will probably be changes for the next one.

What is main criticisms coming back from the graders? As the pre-selection theory has surely been put to bed.

[The Camel]

I do think BBP could have run this grading more humanely.

Pretty unfair to guys like James and Dave to play all this time and have a total let down tonight.

Perhaps a less brutal way of running it would be to drop players as they go.

Perhaps lose 10 a week until the final night when everyone was guaranteed a blue belt and from among those the brown belts are chosen.

Then it would have to be run over a longer period than just a month, perhaps with the setting up of BBP and the WSOP starting maybe they didnt have enough time to do it that way.

50 graders:

End of week 1: lose 10.. 40 left
End of week 2: lose 10.. 30 left
End of week 3: lose 10.. 20 left
End of week 4: 12 blue belts, 8 brown belts.

What is wrong with this model?

I think maybe you'd struggle to make a true decision about someone in a week - maybe they run bad, and maybe part of the selection process is seeing how people recover from and respond to this. Also from a business point of view I can think of some distinct financial reasons why this would not be as attractive a proposition

From what I can gather from reading the bbp grading board and this thread there is some serious annoyance and disgruntlement among the graders who have missed out altogether.

I wouldn't be suprised if a fair % of them would choose never to play on the bbp skin ever again.

In my model you would obviously lose alot of rake but keep the loyalty of more players. ie not killing the goose that laid the golden egg..

(Maybe start the grading at a higher level so you get the most rake from the 50?)

I dont think this grading was set up just to get people on there for the rake was it?
I guess a lot of this grading was a " suck it and see" and i think there will probably be changes for the next one.

What is main criticisms coming back from the graders? As the pre-selection theory has surely been put to bed.

I think players who thought they were locks for blue belt and had a shot at brown belt seem very disillusioned with the whole thing.

4 weeks grinding for nothing.

Tonight seemed a very brutal way of finishing it, must be a way of letting people down more gently then this.