Tough Spor or Not?

[Blatch]

Playing the £1k at DTD with 20k starting stack.

Flying start up to 27k still first level of 50/100.

Info on Villain, has shown an outrageous bluff all in of 10 high for a missed flush draw against an opponent who nearly called with ace high, apart from that has played very few hands.


I raise from UTG +2 to 300 with 55 and get raised to 1k on button by villain. I flat.

Flop comes     

How should I play this to make the most out of the hand?

[Madone]

this type of flop defo looks like it hit the 3 better hard but as you said he did show a big bluff already.......i like to lead sometimes in this spot as he may raise u with air or Ax .

[LOJ]

Deffo lead to build pot & aim to get chips in.  Only 2 hands your scared of here and with villans range on button i think you can expect Ax most of the time....  1/2 pot and see what he does.....

[GreekStein]

Open shove. He'll put u on a flush draw and snap with AQ

[boldie]

Open shove. He'll put u on a flush draw and snap with AQ

shove 26k into a 2k pot?...hmmmm

definitely lead out here though, hoping he comes over the top...some weak ass 1200-1500 bet will do for me.

[GreekStein]

Open shove. He'll put u on a flush draw and snap with AQ

shove 26k into a 2k pot?...hmmmm

definitely lead out here though, hoping he comes over the top...some weak ass 1200-1500 bet will do for me.

Ok well I'm obv joking.

How is 1200-1500 a weak ass bet? You're betting 60-75% of pot, kinda standard isn't it?

[EvilPie]

I don't understand the weak bet anymore.

I like to use it but whenever someone bets out at me I struggle to differentiate between weak and strong.

Too many people try to look weak these days meaning that you just can't tell the difference imo.

As for the hand why not try something different?

How about check and hope he bets. Flat call his bet and then lead out strong on the turn.

Hope he sees it as a float and shoves on your ridic obvious move.

[GreekStein]

The difficulty with this hand and extracting value is we are OOP.

I think I check raise here. I don't want to lead and have him just fold and I think later streets become hard to play this way. From your brief info he seems the type of player who probably won't check behind here. I know we have 270bigs but we're going broke with a set against this guy if he does has an overset and that would just be too toasty for the guy (3-bet button, actually have a hand and flop set over set -mbn). I think if we check raise and he has an ace like AK/AQ and makes the mistake of calling we've inflated the pot early and have 2 more streets to bite at his stack/get the lot.

If he checks behind then we just lead turn and our hand is disguised as we could have nothing as often as we can have set here and we could get paid from genuine hands that don't like the ace KK/QQ or induce him to bluff.

[Blatch]

I led for 1600 and he pops it to 5,100.

Whats our action considering were OOP and villain has us covered?

The player is obviously been on the tour a lot as all the more recongised people are all coming to talk to him, i.e. DC, Rumit, Will Flood, Willie Tann etc  Does this change anything?

[GreekStein]

I led for 1600 and he pops it to 5,100.

Whats our action considering were OOP and villain has us covered?

The player is obviously been on the tour a lot as all the more recongised people are all coming to talk to him, i.e. DC, Rumit, Will Flood, Willie Tann etc  Does this change anything?

It depends - can't treat Mad Turk or Ali Mallu the same as Surinder or Tikay.

The name of the guy would help Neil

[LOJ]

Worst case he has AA/JJ that have us beat.  Poss on flush draw with the re-raise....  He could be re-popping with the 2 hands that have us beat.  AK or AJ? Personally I shove here, and close my eyes when he snaps and turns over JJ....

[TightEnd]

Neil the villian was the founder of Bad Beat, that's why all the pros are coming to talk to him!

I think you've done fine.

If you re-re-raise small now isn't your hand kind of face up? I'd be tempted to shove to at least make him think you might have a massive draw

[Blatch]

I led for 1600 and he pops it to 5,100.

Whats our action considering were OOP and villain has us covered?

The player is obviously been on the tour a lot as all the more recongised people are all coming to talk to him, i.e. DC, Rumit, Will Flood, Willie Tann etc  Does this change anything?

It depends - can't treat Mad Turk or Ali Mallu the same as Surinder or Tikay.

The name of the guy would help Neil

You have the same info as I had at the time

[boldie]

The difficulty with this hand and extracting value is we are OOP.

I think I check raise here. I don't want to lead and have him just fold and I think later streets become hard to play this way. From your brief info he seems the type of player who probably won't check behind here. I know we have 270bigs but we're going broke with a set against this guy if he does has an overset and that would just be too toasty for the guy (3-bet button, actually have a hand and flop set over set -mbn). I think if we check raise and he has an ace like AK/AQ and makes the mistake of calling we've inflated the pot early and have 2 more streets to bite at his stack/get the lot.

If he checks behind then we just lead turn and our hand is disguised as we could have nothing as often as we can have set here and we could get paid from genuine hands that don't like the ace KK/QQ or induce him to bluff.

I don't mind the check raise here actually as quite a few people do this with the FD and it looks soo bad.

as soon as the guy re-raises to 5100 my chips are in.

[Blatch]

Are you both saying here that whatever way we play it we are only trying to get them all in here?