Tough Spor or Not?

[TightEnd]

Are you both saying here that whatever way we play it we are only trying to get them all in here?

Yes

Neil its tough for you here really in the sense that you don't know John Conroy. Not that he's a lunatic but you did see like me his all in bluff with 10 high in level one, so all you have to go on is he looks like Mr Mover, the all time Moves champion

he can have AK/AQ/AJ just as likely JJ/AA, or he can have clubs.....or he thinks you've bet clubs and he's trying to get you off the draw with any pocket pair. All are possible

I'd ship it in here and if has a bigger set so be it

[Blatch]

I understand what your saying but with 270 BB's deep at the start of the hand surely we should be able to find a way to find out if we are ahead or not?

[TightEnd]

I understand what your saying but with 270 BB's deep at the start of the hand surely we should be able to find a way to find out if we are ahead or not?

I might be completely up the wrong alley here, but make it say 5k more and your hand is face up. worse hands fold. Yes you find out if you are beat

ship it in and worse hands might call?

[Blatch]

Really?

What worse hand is gonna call here unless he has something like KQ cc for the combi draw?

[GreekStein]

Worse hands aren't calling if you getting 270bigs in the middle unless in true blatchly style he has AJ here. I flat and am happy to get them all in on any non club turn.

[TightEnd]

Really?

What worse hand is gonna call here unless he has something like KQ cc for the combi draw?

AJ?

[Blatch]

Maybe AJ, but deffo AA and JJ and therefore our of a range of 3 I dont want to putting them in only beating one

[kinboshi]

Worse hands aren't calling if you getting 270bigs in the middle unless in true blatchly style he has AJ here. I flat and am happy to get them all in on any non club turn.

I like this line.

[TightEnd]

The range is bigger than three though. Nut clubs/AK etc

saw loads of live donks spew off whole stacks with top pair crappy kicker in the first two levels yesterday. I don't think some of them are thinking "this is 250xbb deep, I should not stack off with one pair", they just like their hands!

Conroy almost stacked off with 10 high, albeit he was the pusher not the caller

[T_Mar]

Maybe AJ, but deffo AA and JJ and therefore our of a range of 3 I dont want to putting them in only beating one

Not sure why you narrowed his range to only 3 hands here? There are 2 hands that beat you and a zillion that you are ahead of.. I like Flatting his raise and seeing the turn, as you let him off too easy by sticking in the 3-bet. Definately look to get stacks in though against this player, who you already seen likes to apply pressure and make some moves

[MANTIS01]

If villain has recently moved all-in on a 10-high bluff why would you push here? This oppo has demonstrated a tendancy to make moves without cards and the pushing strat will strangle the life out of his scope to do that. Pushing forces this guy into a situation where he can only put his chips in with strong cards and folds everything else. I think you should flat the raise and check the turn to give him a chance to put chips in with weak cards. Weak leading the turn also has merit. Also worrying about villain having A-A or J-J is a pretty pointless exercise.

[AlexMartin]

hi neil mate. checkraise is standard obviously. b/3b looks super strong. b/c is cool too then maybe lead turn if he thinks ur a donk, coz tbh who uses this line with a balanced range? and yes we get this in quite happily 270bb deep imo.