What would you do in this situation...

[mikkyT]

Cash game, you have just shy of £100. You've re-raised a raise pre-flop, and the initial raiser has called, everyone else has folded. You flop your ace, which is checked to you and you bet out around £60-70. The initial raiser puts it all in, and the dealer passes you your change, some £25 chips. You turn over AQ, other guy turns over AK, which holds up.

4-5 hands down the line, AK who has not played a hand since, counts his stack and wonders why he only has £58 (after posting two blinds of £1 each). He sat down with £60 and only played two hands. The first, he bet out with £15 and folded on the flop. Which left him £45 with which you duely doubled him up. He is £25 short (He should have £90). He politely accuses the dealer of perhaps mixing in the £25 chip with his own chips as they where sitting close together.

Who cares though? The table tries to help the guy work out where the chip went, was it raked in error, etc. Do you care?

What if you think that the dealer gave you back too much change, and the £25 you put into the pot previously had been returned in error. You count your stack and sure enough - you are £25 more than you should be.

What do you do now?

[Wardonkey]

Unless you are a thief you give the man his pony back.

[TightEnd]

Give it to the guy

it's honest and it's the right thing to do

the poker gods will reward you

[patman]

difficult one.

the responsibility is on each player and the dealer to check the payouts/returns so in that sense its their own fault.

To be fair if he had paid me too much i`d  have said at the time to avoid that confusion later on down the line...if you are sure it was you i`d fess up...

i`d return the over pay
1. to avoid fallout between dealer and pther player
2. because its the honest thing...you are not playing a bookie her but fellow players.

[mikkyT]

What if, as indicated above, the mistake wasn't noticed at the time? But 5-6 hands later. You hadn't noticed it, he hadn't noticed it. It almost was as if the whole table had not noticed it. Would it change your decision? You're memory tells you, after sitting with a semi, the chips you have now after the hands you've just played don't add up. Would it change your mind if you couldn't quite be sure of the number of chips in front of you?

[TightEnd]

No.

it's not your mistake but in my opinion you have a moral obligation to do the right thing


I know it's wet and I know it's not old school dog eat dog poker, but that's what I say

[patman]

 if i was fairly sure that my chips didnt add up i would still own up...you can generally roughly back count your plays and know if you are about right....and factoring in any rounds of drink/food bought

bottom line yes i`d pay up

[tikay]

In Notts one night, a guy accidentally short-changed me of £200 in a cash game. Too boring to post the details. But two HOURS later, he realised his mistake, told me - I was oblivious to it - and paid me.

Take a bow, Sean.

[mikkyT]

Its nice to know that thetank is not the only gentleman amongst the blonde posters then. And kudos to him returning my £25 chip last night.

as it turns out, another guy at the table had thought too much change was returned at the time, but did not say anything and with it being 6 hands past, did not want to put the other player in an awkward position unless he himself was sure the chip wasn't his.

A good reputation goes a long long way in my book. Id not been in that situation before, and I had written the chip off as a loss, as it was my mistake for not checking at the time. What goes around comes around though.

[patman]

 

always nice to hear..

[Rod Paradise]

 



Well done Tank.

[thetank]

Cheers for the kudos and that, but pretty much everyone would have done the same thing here. Unless, as Wardonkey says, they were a thief.

[snoopy1239]

I'd give it back.

It's the same with split pots. I'll say something rather than allow the dealer to push the money my way.

[thetank]

For the record, I didn't notice at the time that the dealer had pushed me too much change.
Too busy lamenting having mis-read MikkyT for a weaker ace.

[mikkyT]

Maybe I'm used to too many thieving glasweigens just like the ones who tried to steal my car that same night and fucked up my steering