Cash game at DTD

[Blatch]

Had a really good hand at DTD and want a few opinions from the "cash" experts on here.

General background, we have one idiot at the table who has min raised twice already with A10 and AJ and got there both times.  I reload for £2k trying to look like on tilt with view of playing agressivley.  Also on table is Cos aka Greekstein sat with £1600 (reloaded when he saw my reload) and Vargas sat with 800.   Vargas is incredibly loose tez player and will call / raise with absolutly anything.  Idiot kid who is hitting everything who never played live before is sat with 800 odd.

Last 20 mins Vargas has raised blind to £20 every hand and is chasing the £2k that he is down.

So the hand: -

Idiot limps UTG knowing Vargas is going to raise.

Cos raises to £12 from the cut off.  Cos may say different but he opens a lot, especially in position with a wide range of hands.  Vargas raises on button blind to £25.  I always watch Vargas to make sure he is blind and this time he was.  Vargas is on the button and I look down at  , whats my play?

Considering we are so deep, in the small blind and that we have an UTG limper knowing it will get raised and knowing Cos has the option of re raising should I be flatting or defining my hand?

I flatted as didnt want to play the hand this deep OOP and wanted more info on UTG and Cos.

UTG folds and Cos calls.

Flop is 

Should I lead? Check?

I checked and cos checks, Vargas bets 50.  I call and cos raises to £125, Vargas folds.  My play???

Should I re raise especially as we have such an under repped hand?  If I flat is my hand face up?

I flatted.  Turns brings  .

Should I lead?

I checked, cos bets £225 - should I shove?

I call and river is 

Whats my action?

General views throughout would be nice please.

[GreekStein]

Cos may say different but he opens a lot, especially in position with a wide range of hands.  

Cos doesn't say different!

Few things though.

I think I raised to £165 on the flop as I seem to remember it being £115 more.

On the turn I think I bet £265

[mondatoo]

Loads of questions so thought i'd break this up a bit,oh and ain't a cash "expert" but will throw my 2 pennies worth in anyway

Idiot limps UTG knowing Vargas is going to raise.

Since he's an "idiot" when he limps he most likely hasn't even thought about the fact that it'll get raised so i wouldn't let him effect my decision on how to play the hand pre,i like the flat oop though this deep since although i've never played with him i believe the old guy in the cutoff is a decent player so don't want to put yourself in a shit spot if the flop misses you totally.

Should I lead? Check?

I would lead the flop here, esp against 2 players with wider ranges.I'm doing this with the intention of just calling a raise i don't really like the idea of re-raising here since your only on a flush draw and getting it in here so deep is pretty spewy.I think playing it this way still underreps your hand as well imo whereas the line you have took i'm 99% certain that you have Ahx

If you lead then cos may play his hand differently as your lead would look a lot stronger than vargas' raise thus keeping the pot smaller and you not committing yourself on just a draw.Also i'm more sure by leading and cos raising that he's got a big hand whereas the way it's played it's still pretty difficult to narrow down ranges when coz could just be at it since you've shown weakness and vargas is "tez"

If I flat is my hand face up?

Already kinda mentioned this but yeah imo by the turn as you've played it am pretty certain that your just on a flush draw

I flatted.  Turns brings  .

The turn is pretty much heaven,i hate check shoving as he ain't guna call you with anything you can beat and your losing value agianst hands you do,c/c is ok as if he has 10's-Q's our opp would most likely expect to still have the best hand.I think check calling is the best line for us here as our hand now looks totally just a flush draw as played so most likely opp's gonna vb most rivers thinking he's good if he has 9x or 1010+ and we can snap it off.

Whats my action?

C/c would be my line on this river for reasons said above.Also don't want to be in a spot we're we have to call a shove on the river with just tptk

This is an interesting hand and look forward to others opinions on it as well as on my analysis

PS I just woke up and am pretty jet lagged so reserve the right to accuse someone of hacking into my account and that i never wrote any of that rubbush 

[gribbo]

i dont play this high or deep so bear with me. I would stick in a re re raise pre as if cos is raising as wide as u say and the other guy re raising blind u are miles ahead with ur hand and are taking the initiative in the hand eventhough you are OOP.  On the flop i would lead for about 2/3 pot.

I think like mon said ur hand is pretty much face up on the turn... with the small re raise on the flop i think greekstein has  something like   or  ... duno if he is sick enough to be bluffing or barreling with the bare

What are the blinds here £1/£2 or £2/£5?

[kinboshi]

Raise of £12 pre, I'd say it was £1/2 blinds.

[GreekStein]

Yes it's £1/2, me and Neil are just sitting so deep cos Mr Vargas has spewed so hard in the hour before that even the terrible fish have accumulated £600+ stacks from mr V so it was probably beneficial to have them well covered.

[mondatoo]

i dont play this high or deep so bear with me. I would stick in a re re raise pre as if cos is raising as wide as u say and the other guy re raising blind u are miles ahead with ur hand and are taking the initiative in the hand eventhough you are OOP.  On the flop i would lead for about 2/3 pot.

I think like mon said ur hand is pretty much face up on the turn... with the small re raise on the flop i think greekstein has  something like   or  ... duno if he is sick enough to be bluffing or barreling with the bare

What are the blinds here £1/£2 or £2/£5?

Why put yourself in a tough spot by 4betting pre oop so deep with AK i don't see any benefit to doing this,the fact that they are so deep means cos will most likely call with pos no matter what he has.We are never really miles ahead against anything when we have AK vs 2 opp's,doubt they both have Ax

From reading cos' post think the raise (it wasnt a rr) was more than blatch said and was just a norm bet size, his range is a lot wider than just having a flush here;he cud have A9,Kh9,99,55,22,1010+ (with a heart),67h,78h,or just complete air since blatch doesn't seem strong and the other guys pretty tez

[EvilPie]

Yes it's £1/2, me and Neil are just sitting so deep cos Mr Vargas has spewed so hard in the hour before that even the terrible fish have accumulated £600+ stacks from mr V so it was probably beneficial to have them well covered. because we need to compensate for our tiny penises.

FYP

[kinboshi]

Yes it's £1/2, me and Neil are just sitting so deep cos Mr Vargas has spewed so hard in the hour before that even the terrible fish have accumulated £600+ stacks from mr V so it was probably beneficial to have them well covered. because we need to compensate for our tiny penises.

FYP

Cos, you'll have to come up to DTD this weekend now to sort Matt out.

[GreekStein]

Yes it's £1/2, me and Neil are just sitting so deep cos Mr Vargas has spewed so hard in the hour before that even the terrible fish have accumulated £600+ stacks from mr V so it was probably beneficial to have them well covered. because we need to compensate for our tiny penises.

FYP

Cos, you'll have to come up to DTD this weekend now to sort Matt out.

Oh my god Matt is in so much physical danger he doesn't even understand. Obv Blatch is a big poof and won't do anything but I'm one hard ass jew lookalike 22-48 year old Greek Ninja and I'm gonna fuck him up.

Matt don't show your face at DTD this weekend if you still want to be recognised by it next week.

Weird how he knew though.

[Dewi_cool]

so Cos has  then?

[StuartHopkin]

lol cos wouldnt play AA thats an open fold in his book, no fun

[GreekStein]

so Cos has  then?

I'm not flatting a reraise with AA vs a donkey who can't bare not to see a flop....esp once Neil has flatted so that's one hand you can rule out.

[EvilPie]

so Cos has  then?

I'm not flatting a reraise with AA vs a donkey who can't bare not to see a flop....esp once Neil has flatted so that's one hand you can rule out.

lol. Fuck allaments imo.

He's not betting anything with any kind of showdown value.

 

[GreekStein]

I had