Hand from Venetian $550 tourney,done tikay styleeeeeeeeeee

[GreekStein]

call and see if some diamonds come

I wouldn't call to hit diamonds, but definitely to try and hit some deuces.

I wanna draw at the wheel personally

[StuartHopkin]

1. We don't have any problem jamming his 4-bet when that happens,
2. He folds and so do the other guys who don't call 3-bets
3. Someone calls and we can c-bet most flops when it gets heads up
4. We can check/raise all-in a lot of flops when it is multi-way or we may even hit our hand.

Are you one of those guys that loves watching car crashes?

[daviebhoy]

I take it that you like this plan with 72o as well?

Not really no. I don't think there is much chance that hand is ahead of his light 4-betting range.

dn

[daviebhoy]

Are you one of those guys that loves watching car crashes?

I have already said standard play is to call. There isn't much to discuss there. With a loose open-raiser in EP betting 2.5*BB and tight callers behind there is no reason to think Ace high isn't good here if we can get the tight players to fold and win their dead money. I don;t mind the play with good feel for where people are at on the table and with a tight image.

[Graham C]

is it safe to say we're ready for your action and/or the flop now?

[lazaroonie]

is it safe to say we're ready for your action and/or the flop now?

im not...i would fold and go for a smoke

[doubleup]

is it safe to say we're ready for your action and/or the flop now?

im not...i would fold and go for a smoke

hmmm as an ex-smoker I can advise that the cut-off is the hand to fold and go for a smoke, returning in time for your bb....

[MANTIS01]

Nah, definitely call and see if diamonds come. If the flop comes  insta open fold in the bb and go for a smoke. The dealer will still be shuffling the next hand when you return.

[mondatoo]

is it safe to say we're ready for your action and/or the flop now?

I thought it was best to let the discussion to 3 bet or peel run for a bit longer,i will put the next stage up tonight

[MC]

I don't like a 3bet here, it looks soooooo much like a squeeze.

I do think you get 4bet light, and with so many players to get through, it's not a good spot I don't think.

[mondatoo]

Before I put the next stage up all put my thoughts so far

I do agree this could be a good spot to 3b as a lot of the time we do pick up the pot right here,However I really don’t like your bet size alex.If we make it 5700 here I’m pretty sure most of the time we end up just inflating the pot and it will still be multiway oop and how many players in a live tourney esp one in vegas are capable of 4b light ? I agree it’s a good idea to try to induce the 4b so we can 5b shove but I really don’t think that works here enough to warrant making that play and as someone else was making the point I would prefer to do it with 74green than A2.

Obviously flatting is the standard play to make here but I think its best line to take here and if we are 3b I think we should be making it between 8-9k

[Cf]

have we called yet?

[Simon Galloway]

Last time I played one of these, a 3bet from the BB would get you 4 callers.  You might get someone to pass, but I doubt it.  KQ aint going anywhere, QT aint going anywhere either. 66 is unpassable.  Wind your neck in and hit some diamonds on the flop.  Then when you want to re-jam the flop you can do, at least you will have some nut outs, because you are going to need to hit one of them to win the pot.

[TightEnd]

Next stage please

Call, needing to hit a huge flop OOP

[MC]

[ ] This initial decision required this much analysis

lol

C'mon Stephen cough up sir!!!