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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2009, 04:05:24 PM » |
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Raising 2k out of 5k from UTG looks stronger than pushing thou
right up to till the point that u get called from the BB and the board runs AKQ - then its not so clever You get called by worse many times in this spot because shoving widens your range. I know what u are saying in terms of looking strong - but i would peel in the BB with any 2 broadway cards and if my stack was big enough be prepared to double the guy up if I hit (assuming he has AA which i suppose is what ur suggesting) I agree raising 2k out of 5k with 10-10 is not clever. It looks strong...but I don't want to look strong...cos I am strong. I think you misunderstood my post. However, raising 2k out of 5k UTG with the 4 and 5 of diamonds is reasonably clever. |
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2009, 04:06:41 PM » |
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Raising 2k out of 5k from UTG looks stronger than pushing thou
1 problem....we have the nuts, we want callers! shove, will look additionally weak coz ur utg and players will recognise ur jamming super wide b4 the blinds pass through you. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2009, 04:19:20 PM » |
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Raising 2k out of 5k from UTG looks stronger than pushing thou
1 problem....we have the nuts, we want callers! shove, will look additionally weak coz ur utg and players will recognise ur jamming super wide b4 the blinds pass through you. level? |
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2009, 04:30:11 PM » |
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There are still players out there who will see a shove as being stronger than a standard raise. If villain is one of those players then standard raise. If villain will see a standard raise as being stronger then shove.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 01:51:00 PM » |
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Raising 2k out of 5k from UTG looks stronger than pushing thou
Surely we don't want to look strong here? Push and hope to get a call and take the race to double up, if no callers, we add almost 25% to our stack!!! |
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2009, 02:47:26 PM » |
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Raising 2k out of 5k from UTG looks stronger than pushing thou
1 problem....we have the nuts, we want callers! shove, will look additionally weak coz ur utg and players will recognise ur jamming super wide b4 the blinds pass through you. level? level 5? |
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2009, 01:27:23 PM » |
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There are still players out there who will see a shove as being stronger than a standard raise. If villain is one of those players then standard raise. If villain will see a standard raise as being stronger then shove.
there isnt a villain |
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2009, 05:47:49 PM » |
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we should be shoving here super wide. we have the effective nuts. we are crying for a call. standard raise looks too fking strong.
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2009, 02:32:05 PM » |
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Easy fold for me. Learn to value your tournament lives.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2009, 03:13:03 PM » |
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Easy fold for me. Learn to value your tournament lives.
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2009, 03:15:47 PM » |
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Easy fold for me. Learn to value your tournament lives.
This. We're likely to pick up AA within the next couple of orbits, putting us in much better shape than with TT. |
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2009, 06:53:59 PM » |
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SHOVE
with less than 10bbs no other option for me
If everyone folds there is a good % of your stack already in the pot - ideal
If you get called only 4 hands you really dont want to see, all the rest you've got crushed or your flipping with at worst, id rather flip with this stack size at this stage than blind out or face getting it in with worse & less bbs later on
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2009, 01:20:35 PM » |
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shove and hope for the race... never folding...
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2009, 12:53:09 AM » |
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For the nits/fish who dont shove here what exactly is your range? Such an easy autocall. Also I'm guessing the majority of players who fold here are live players?
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2009, 12:57:24 AM » |
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if I were to make a list of things that astonish and amaze me then the fact that this hand is still being discussed after 3 weeks would be at number 1
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