QQ facing button raise...

[daviebhoy]

Bet pot,call any raise and check call any river letting him bluff/bet the J.

[dousche]

Bet pot,call any raise and check call any river letting him bluff/bet the J.

stacks?

is bet/fold really really weak here?

[daviebhoy]

is bet/fold really really weak here?

Is he really checking a big diamond or king on the flop from a steal position ? He may check 2 diamonds but i think we go broke the tiny amount of time this happens.

[dousche]

is bet/fold really really weak here?

Is he really checking a big diamond or king on the flop from a steal position ? He may check 2 diamonds but i think we go broke the tiny amount of time this happens.

im not sure that i get where you're coming from, but my thinking is that the majority of hands that he jams on the turn with have us crushed

[daviebhoy]

My thinking is that the hands we are worried about don't check the flop and therefore we can't fold the turn.

[daviebhoy]

100% crai.

I don't like this line. We started the hand looking to stack villain but by crai we are trying to end the hand here most of the time, stack off to a better hand or flip against the .

[Michigan Jeff]

The hand gets lost on the flop. QQ no redraw on a all diamond flop next hand please.

[AlexMartin]

The hand gets lost on the flop. QQ no redraw on a all diamond flop next hand please.

nit

[MANTIS01]

Villain steals lots. Why doesn't he try and steal this pot on a scary looking flop? Have we been 3-betting him lots? He could put some serious pressure on our stack and our random oop hand if he put out a good bet. But he checks instead? I would play this cautiously. Your flat pre is a mistake imo, but whatever, you slowplayed hoping for a much better flop than this, the trap hasn't worked, and I don't think jamming chips into the pot solves that problem.

[Amatay]

i just blast in these things James

[daviebhoy]

Villain steals lots. Why doesn't he try and steal this pot on a scary looking flop? Have we been 3-betting him lots? He could put some serious pressure on our stack and our random oop hand if he put out a good bet. But he checks instead? I would play this cautiously. Your flat pre is a mistake imo, but whatever, you slowplayed hoping for a much better flop than this, the trap hasn't worked, and I don't think jamming chips into the pot solves that problem.

So you check turn then yeah ? Check/Fold or Check/Call ?

[outragous76]

Villain steals lots. Why doesn't he try and steal this pot on a scary looking flop? Have we been 3-betting him lots? He could put some serious pressure on our stack and our random oop hand if he put out a good bet. But he checks instead? I would play this cautiously. Your flat pre is a mistake imo, but whatever, you slowplayed hoping for a much better flop than this, the trap hasn't worked, and I don't think jamming chips into the pot solves that problem.

ZOMG - someone pass me a rope and a high ledge - Im in agreement with mantis! 

[MANTIS01]

Villain steals lots. Why doesn't he try and steal this pot on a scary looking flop? Have we been 3-betting him lots? He could put some serious pressure on our stack and our random oop hand if he put out a good bet. But he checks instead? I would play this cautiously. Your flat pre is a mistake imo, but whatever, you slowplayed hoping for a much better flop than this, the trap hasn't worked, and I don't think jamming chips into the pot solves that problem.

So you check turn then yeah ? Check/Fold or Check/Call ?

Just check. If he bets small/regular prob fold, if he bets bigger maybe not. If we were deeper this would be different, but with these stacks any decent bet gets us having to answer an awkward question. We would see his bet in terms of our stack % not pot %...and we would still be oop. The bet, the board, the position, would pressure a large range of hands imo. What's the reason for him not to use his position to bet when the conditions are right for it? 

[MANTIS01]

Villain steals lots. Why doesn't he try and steal this pot on a scary looking flop? Have we been 3-betting him lots? He could put some serious pressure on our stack and our random oop hand if he put out a good bet. But he checks instead? I would play this cautiously. Your flat pre is a mistake imo, but whatever, you slowplayed hoping for a much better flop than this, the trap hasn't worked, and I don't think jamming chips into the pot solves that problem.

ZOMG - someone pass me a rope and a high ledge - Im in agreement with mantis! 

It will happen more & more frequently as you continue to progess

[MC]

Interesting thoughts.

I kinda thought I was in a spot where he had me crushed, or I was good anyway, so was happy to get to showdown. Obviously hoping to fade a diamond on the river incase he had something like 9dTc or of that nature. Perhaps gave up on the pot too easily, but I was of Mantis' way of thinking.

Anywayz, diamond on the river. No choice here but to check right, hard for me to represent any diamond based on my action?

Then he shoves. Anybody else here want to make a hero call? His line makes no sense to me. Obviously I didn't have the balls (plus he could be bluffing w/ the best hand?) and I folded having played the whole hand outta whack

***** Hand History for Game 13139838786 ***** (Full Tilt)
$60000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 01, 02:00:35 ET 2009
Table 24  2 Sit  Go (97450674) Table 4 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: HakunaMatata74 ( $8750.00 USD )
Seat 3: Luzcache ( $16214.00 USD )
Seat 4: Boxed Canyon ( $11636.00 USD )
Seat 7: Fido7Dido ( $12640.00 USD )
Seat 8: PNBRAZIL ( $18260.00 USD )
Fido7Dido posts small blind [$300.00 USD].
PNBRAZIL posts big blind [$600.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Fido7Dido [  ]
HakunaMatata74 folds
Luzcache folds
Boxed Canyon raises [$1800.00 USD]
Fido7Dido calls [$1500.00 USD]
PNBRAZIL folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Fido7Dido checks
Boxed Canyon checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
Fido7Dido checks
Boxed Canyon checks
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Fido7Dido checks
Boxed Canyon bets [$9836.00 USD]
Fido7Dido folds
Boxed Canyon wins $9836.00 USD
Boxed Canyon wins $4200.00 USD from main pot