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« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2009, 08:07:40 PM » |
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FAIL - Card falls onto floor during deal - 5 points TightEnd (A card, in the act of beling dealt from dealer to player, falls off the table onto the floor) Shogun112 (Dealer was a little strong and dealt card off the poker table onto the floor)
This is severely harsh, their answers mean the same thing
How do you mean?
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« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2009, 08:07:57 PM » |
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(h) The first card was dealt to the wrong position.
Isn't the floor the wrong position 
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« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2009, 08:08:06 PM » |
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For reference:
MISDEALS
1. Once action begins, a misdeal cannot be called. The deal will be played, and no money will be returned to any player whose hand is fouled. In button games, action is considered to occur when two players after the blinds have acted on their hands. In stud games, action is considered to occur when two players after the forced bet have acted on their hands.
2. The following circumstances cause a misdeal, provided attention is called to the error before two players have acted on their hands.
(a) The first or second card of the hand has been exposed by a dealer error.
(b) Two or more cards have been exposed by the dealer.
(c) Two or more boxed cards (improperly faced cards) are found.
(d) Two or more extra cards have been dealt in the starting hands of a game.
(e) An incorrect number of cards has been dealt to a player, except the top card may be dealt if it goes to the player in proper sequence.
(f) Any card has been dealt out of the proper sequence (except an exposed card may be replaced by the burncard).
(g) The button was out of position.
(h) The first card was dealt to the wrong position.
(i) Cards have been dealt to an empty seat or a player not entitled to a hand.
(j) A player has been dealt out who is entitled to a hand. This player must be present at the table or have posted a blind or ante.
well they have clearly missed a card falling onto the floor then card falls player "misdeal?" dealer "no sir, play with one card" Just what a farce goodnight
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« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2009, 08:08:55 PM » |
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FAIL - Card falls onto floor during deal - 5 points TightEnd (A card, in the act of beling dealt from dealer to player, falls off the table onto the floor) Shogun112 (Dealer was a little strong and dealt card off the poker table onto the floor)
What? this is a misdeal in every casino I have ever been to
Indeed. I would also consider this to be a misdeal myself. However... that doesn't make it a correct answer to this question. well you can stick roberts rules where the sun doesn't shine sunshine goodnight Seconded
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« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2009, 08:09:19 PM » |
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well if the dealer throws a card on the floor, it is surely a misdeal
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« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2009, 08:10:04 PM » |
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OBJECTION: Question asked for Robert's rules but I think we should now change this to Robert, Mike and Davey's Rules too keep everyone happy.
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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2009, 08:11:57 PM » |
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GUKPT rules cover it: http://www.grosvenorukpokertour.com/rules.shtmlI'm suprised RRs don't tbh. I originally marked the answer as correct. But when I came to pick it from the list it simply wasn't there. It's not me that's the farce on this one. It's (can't believe i'm slagging them) RRs!
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« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2009, 08:12:05 PM » |
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f) Any card has been dealt out of the proper sequence (except an exposed card may be replaced by the burncard).
Is effectively what they are saying its been dealt out of proper sequence eg hitting the floor!!, how can you fail them
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« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2009, 08:12:21 PM » |
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I say a misdeal as a)the dealer saw the cards - when they fell on the floor
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« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2009, 08:12:44 PM » |
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Cf is the TD using RR. Good call. That's what poker players need, a firm TD. 
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« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2009, 08:13:25 PM » |
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I say a misdeal as a)the dealer saw the cards - when they fell on the floor
agreed either a or f can be the answer they have given
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« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2009, 08:13:45 PM » |
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GUKPT rules cover it: http://www.grosvenorukpokertour.com/rules.shtmlI'm suprised RRs don't tbh. I originally marked the answer as correct. But when I came to pick it from the list it simply wasn't there. It's not me that's the farce on this one. It's (can't believe i'm slagging them) RRs! Robert is obviously a major person for rules in poker... The FA have been using Carl's rules for ages, I banned offsides in my rules...
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« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2009, 08:14:19 PM » |
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I say a misdeal as a)the dealer saw the cards - when they fell on the floor
agreed either a or f can be the answer they have given or (h)
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« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2009, 08:14:52 PM » |
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f) Any card has been dealt out of the proper sequence (except an exposed card may be replaced by the burncard).
Is effectively what they are saying its been dealt out of proper sequence eg hitting the floor!!, how can you fail them
This is com  ty 'out of proper sequence eg hitting the floor' errrrr You should become a barrister
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« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2009, 08:15:16 PM » |
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You cannot fail their answers, a reasonable explanation as to how a misdeal can be called by their answer is easily within those 2 or 3 as ger has said rules
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