Wembley Cup....

[Josedinho]

Can't really compare Old Firm to Prem, done well in Europe against Prem teams but so have some championship clubs in domestic cups. Only ever going to be 1 way to find out.

If offered a place in the Championship would old firm fans take it? Tough league to get out of.

[mckelinho]

my heart:

My passed views expressed on this thread have been based purely on my love for Rangers and Scotland. If Rangers and Celtic went to EPL we would finish mid table.


My Head:

Overall the EPL i far superior to the SPL and all other european leagues apart from Spain as it is money talks.

Spain always has been and always will be the best league in the world, made that way purely because they are superior at football hence this attracted money to the countrys football.

Italy should be up there with La liga and EPL as they are masters of football but due to corrupt boards and chairman they have slumped in the past decade.

The EPL has bought its way up to where it is now. Fair enough class players like Lampard, Gerrard and Gary Neville have came through but overall the EPL has made it to where it is as London is a large financial base and the British economy in important to world wide investors and therefore attracts the likes of Abramovic.

SPL is a league in a tiny country with its best players leaving it asap as the EPL is more attractive. a 5 million population country cant make a league to compete with a 60 million population country. I would like to see Engalnd, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland mix everything up and play with one big structure. The only plus side to this for the EPL would be the revenue of the Old Firm and i dont think the English would like it but i would like to see it happen

[Colchester Kev]

Would those who want Celtic & Rangers in the prem be happy for them to start in the Championship and earn the right to play in the Prem ?

Ooops just seen Jose has asked same question, interested in the answers though.

[mckelinho]

I would be happy with that because i believe we would both go up in the same season. I one thing that wouldnt go down so well is that the Old Firm have fought for Europe for the past 40+ years and deserve the right to continue doing so. Both Rangers and Celtic have made it to the group stages of the Champions league in the past 4 years with Rangers getting to the UEFA cup final 2 seasons ago so where would the justification be in putting them in the Championship.

[Teacake]

Would those who want Celtic in the prem be happy for them to start in the Championship and earn the right to play in the Prem ?

Ooops just seen Jose has asked same question, interested in the answers though.

Yeah I would although English clubs won't want us in the for-seeable future, you wouldn't blame them either.

[Teacake]

I would be happy with that because i believe we would both go up in the same season. I one thing that wouldnt go down so well is that the Old Firm have fought for Europe for the past 40+ years and deserve the right to continue doing so. Both Rangers and Celtic have made it to the group stages of the Champions league in the past 4 years with Rangers getting to the UEFA cup final 2 seasons ago so where would the justification be in putting them in the Championship.

You can't have your cake and eat it! Theres no way could expect to parachute into the Championship and still represent Scotland in Europe!

[mckelinho]

im not wanting my cake and eating it. Just expressing my opinions. The Old Firm's size and support would be good for the EPL and thats why they have been looking into it

[Maxriddles]

Can't really compare Old Firm to Prem, done well in Europe against Prem teams but so have some championship clubs in domestic cups. Only ever going to be 1 way to find out.

If offered a place in the Championship would old firm fans take it? Tough league to get out of.

In a heartbeat.

[Div]

Would those who want Celtic & Rangers in the prem be happy for them to start in the Championship and earn the right to play in the Prem ?

Ooops just seen Jose has asked same question, interested in the answers though.

I'd take that. I know the Championship is a tough league but in a way playing in the SPL for so long is good preparation for that sort of scrap.

[Boba Fett]

lol@the tic cave trying to claim the Europa league is as good, if not better than being in the champions league  lmao.  Enjoy the Europa league and let us know how that works out

[celtic]

If Celtic lose to the Russians do we go into the europa league or out of Europe completely?

[mckelinho]

If Celtic lose to the Russians do we go into the europa league or out of Europe completely?

I'm not to sure. I'd imagine Europa League is it is the 3rd qualifying stage that u are in tonight. Dont imagine the Playoffs stage will make  a diff to that. Should beat the Russians anyway. As long as u's can keep Kerzhakoz quiet. Think its the next round u really need to worry about

[Rod Paradise]

lol@the tic cave trying to claim the Europa league is as good, if not better than being in the champions league  lmao.  Enjoy the Europa league and let us know how that works out

WD with the Fergus patter - it was getting old then  make your case and you'd maybe be listened to.

Simply put, 3 home games in the CL for Rangers = roughly £5m ticket money & blue nose burgers. The UEFA cash depends upon TV audience and results, as long as you do well, you're OK, if not the £10-15m is just paper talk.

Europa cup = 3 home games in the group + other home games in the next rounds (you'd have to be really bad not to make top 3 out of 5). The TV money will be less than the CL if you get a good side as it's pooled like the CL, ie you don't get to negotiate games individually, but allowing for more wins (which should be achievable) it could be not too far behind a CL failure season.

Probably the best situation financially would be high points 3rd in group and a wee EC run.

Anyway, at least Lloyds won't be grabbing any money we make from Europe this year, Rangers though.....

[Rod Paradise]

If Celtic lose to the Russians do we go into the europa league or out of Europe completely?

Lose to Dinamo = Europa League last QR (seeded).
Beat Dinamo then lose = Europa League Group Stage (2nd Seed I think).

[celtic]

If Celtic lose to the Russians do we go into the europa league or out of Europe completely?

Lose to Dinamo = Europa League last QR (seeded).
Beat Dinamo then lose = Europa League Group Stage (2nd Seed I think).

cheers Rod.