Near bubble and shallow river spot

[MANTIS01]

Why don't we just open shove every round when we find an Ace in the cut off? I mean most of the time they can't call right? Is this the winning poker we're aspiring to? You need to look at moves in the context of the whole game rather than just whether shoving works in isolation. We don't know the stacks and moods of the players behind us so advocating shoving based on the couple of numbers we do know is maths gone mad imo. I agree players behind will make incorrect calls because poor players do this when they think you're "at it", and you give them a free spin with you. Yeah, we don't face tough decisions later in the hand, but if we think we are better than our rivals tough spots later favour us rather than them. If we have spent time building a solid image (which I assume Tighty has) we trade off that image by getting inferior players to make mistakes when confronted by tough decisions. Hence why 6-6 smooths pre, and hence why he c-folds most flops. If we push, below average bb villain with 6-6 can find a call and we lose, but if he does fold we lose the money he puts in pre before c-folding post. Either way we lose money by pushing vs this player imo.

[doubleup]

Hence why 6-6 smooths pre, and hence why he c-folds most flops

Dont think so, villain was prob going to donk bet quite a few flops.  I doubt very much that his plan was no set no bet.  You are also making your recurrent error of only considering villains actual holding instead of his range.

[MANTIS01]

Hence why 6-6 smooths pre, and hence why he c-folds most flops

Dont think so, villain was prob going to donk bet quite a few flops.  I doubt very much that his plan was no set no bet.  You are also making your recurrent error of only considering villains actual holding instead of his range.

Please with the recurrent error dude?? Right from the start of the thread I'm saying the flop is good for the c-bet because I think villain is more likely to have high cards based on the action pre, and will c-fold this board texture. Now that I can see he actually has 6-6 I can apply the same reasoning that his play is leading him to c-fold most flops. Although my strat is LESS viable when he's holding a pair on this type of board. Very different from my strat originating from me knowing he has 6-6. Even if we have no idea what he holds we do know that smoothing without a monster pre is a mistake for him with the SPR. Thus we know he is very capable of making mistakes and hence why c-betting vs this particular villain isn't a mistake for us. We can reach that conclusion without knowing his hand.

[AlexMartin]

If we shove though, we don't have difficult decisions later imo, and we have an Ace, and most of the time they can't call

LMFAO as live player levels internet kidz.

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[nirvana]

If we shove though, we don't have difficult decisions later imo, and we have an Ace, and most of the time they can't call

LMFAO as live player levels internet kidz.

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Cheers Alex

[Chompy]

If we shove though, we don't have difficult decisions later imo, and we have an Ace, and most of the time they can't call

This is correct.