A Minutes what?

[The Camel]

The Football League has announced there be a minutes applause at all games before kickoff next week to honour Sir Bobby.

Over the last couple of years QPR have lost two young players, Kiyan Prince was murdered at his school and Ray Jones died in a car crash.

They had a minutes applause in these two events too.

While I approve of the applause to honour a man in his seventies who has lived a full and honourable life I think applauding the life of a kid whose life hasn't really begun is not appropriate. It's far too sad to be applauding.

[bolt pp]

Is this something new over the past couple of years cos ive seen it done quite a few times or is it something that's been commonly done for decades?

[WarBwastard]

Exactly, there's a time to celebrate some one's life and there's a time mourn and pay your respects.  Applause is fine if you're celebrating a life, not really appropriate in mourning a tragic loss and paying respect.  I think they started the applause thing at football because there were too many idiots who couldn't be trusted to respect the minutes silence.

[The Camel]

Is this something new over the past couple of years cos ive seen it done quite a few times or is it something that's been commonly done for decades?

Pretty new.

I think it started when some opposition fans made noise during the minutes silence for George Best.

A minutes applause obv can't be disrupted in the same way.

[TightEnd]

do you think for the QPR young lads the families would have been asked to express a preference for the form of commemoration?

For a few sad losses (mainly supporters, one recent ex player) at our club I know relatives were consulted, and minutes applause took place for young guys

[The Camel]

do you think for the QPR young lads the families would have been asked to express a preference for the form of commemoration?

For a few sad losses (mainly supporters, one recent ex player) at our club I know relatives were consulted, and minutes applause took place for young guys

I'm not sure to be honest, although I was at the game following Ray Jones's death and his family were on the pitch so I guess they were consulted, you are probably right therefore.

[celtic]

I may be wrong biut I tbink it started to mark the 20th anniversary of jock stein's death in 2005. I prefer it. A life is a life and should be celebrated whether they were 15 or 76 imo. 

[bolt pp]

I may be wrong biut I tbink it started to mark the 20th anniversary of jock stein's death in 2005. I prefer it. A life is a life and should be celebrated whether they were 15 or 76 imo. 

I'm not sure anout that, what about at a funeral?

[thetank]

While I approve of the applause to honour a man in his seventies who has lived a full and honourable life I think applauding the life of a kid whose life hasn't really begun is not appropriate. It's far too sad to be applauding.

I'm with you on that.

[AndrewT]

I think the minute's applause for football came from Italy - they've always done it instead of silence.

Don't know when it first came here, but the thinking behind it is that it can't be spoiled by a couple of people.

Mind you, I remember that people applauded Princess Diana's hearse instead of standing in silence, like people traditionally did.

[bolt pp]

I think the minute's applause for football came from Italy - they've always done it instead of silence.

Don't know when it first came here, but the thinking behind it is that it can't be spoiled by a couple of people.

Mind you, I remember that people applauded Princess Diana's hearse instead of standing in silence, like people traditionally did.

they were trying to drown out the sound of the queen booing

[celtic]

I may be wrong biut I tbink it started to mark the 20th anniversary of jock stein's death in 2005. I prefer it. A life is a life and should be celebrated whether they were 15 or 76 imo. 

I'm not sure anout that, what about at a funeral?

Last two funerals I've been to, the vicar or priest has said, that the service should be seen as a chance to celebrate the life of xxxx rather than mourn the death. Just a good way to look at it I suppose. Greiving in the period of death to the funeral is normal obv, so why not use the funeral to celebrate their life?

[mondatoo]

Pretty sure the 1st time it happened in this country was for George best as they thought it was more appropriate to applaud his life than have a minutes silence,not sure why this brought up today about the qpr players i agree that probably is inappropriate but in Sir Bobby's case,the man is an absolute legend and a true gentleman i had the pleasure of meeting him and it was an absolute honour,RIP

[The Camel]

Pretty sure the 1st time it happened in this country was for George best as they thought it was more appropriate to applaud his life than have a minutes silence,not sure why this brought up today about the qpr players i agree that probably is inappropriate but in Sir Bobby's case,the man is an absolute legend and a true gentleman i had the pleasure of meeting him and it was an absolute honour,RIP

I brought up the QPR players because there was a minutes applause for them too.

I feel it is appropriate for a minutes applause in Bobby's case, but I didn't like it at all for the kids who died at Loftus Road.

[david3103]

A minute of silence is a period in which we, as individuals, can have our own quiet thoughts about the person or people whose passing is being marked. Whether it be a 16 yr old lad or a 76 yr old Knight of the Realm.

How does a minute of applause allow that?

What next? A round of applause for the laying of the Wreath at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday?