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[George2Loose]

PokerStars Game #31486256212: Tournament #185960908, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (5000/10000) - 2009/08/10 21:31:26 ET
Table '185960908 92' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: majesensei (201021 in chips)
Seat 2: George2Loose (696949 in chips)
Seat 3: DocHoliday66 (156941 in chips)
Seat 4: Nat1665 (248524 in chips)
Seat 5: Ze_worm (185251 in chips)
Seat 6: loveTOtrapp (172776 in chips)
Seat 8: xX_HoT71_xX (69199 in chips)
Seat 9: Bebert004 (108436 in chips)
majesensei: posts the ante 1250
George2Loose: posts the ante 1250
DocHoliday66: posts the ante 1250
Nat1665: posts the ante 1250
Ze_worm: posts the ante 1250
loveTOtrapp: posts the ante 1250
xX_HoT71_xX: posts the ante 1250
Bebert004: posts the ante 1250
Nat1665: posts small blind 5000
Ze_worm: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
loveTOtrapp: folds
xX_HoT71_xX: folds
Bebert004: folds
majesensei: folds
George2Loose: raises 12989 to 22989
DocHoliday66: raises 132702 to 155691 and is all-in
Nat1665: folds 
Ze_worm: raises 28310 to 184001 and is all-in
George2Loose:?

[EvilPie]

Fold

[thetank]

The fold button is usually on the left if that's what you need help with?

[George2Loose]

ok bit more history

I'm opening like 50% of pots.

Still snap fold?

[EvilPie]

Heads up snap call.

Once the other guy comes along snap fold.

You might be opening 50% but the other guy isn't.

[Woodsey]

Almost certainly fold, how many left?

[boldie]

 as soon as Ze worm comes along for the ride, it's a fold for me.

[GreekStein]

ok bit more history

I'm opening like 50% of pots.

Still snap fold?

I open loads too but don't level yourself into thinking this means people are re-shipping you with shit. Vs one oppo I beat him into the pot, vs two I sigh and pass.

[outragous76]

is there no justifictation for the call given stack sizes here?

both players are all in - he is getiing >2:1 - he has an A and a Q - and can call and lose and still have 45 BB's left?

not a snap fold for me. If you have been super active - 1st guy could be going with a very light holding and 2nd guy could have 99-JJ (i know its the bottom of his range and I am trying to make the call look favourable)

I dont think this is an easy fold given the set up - i think that I probably fold after consideraton - but i wouldnt hate the call given the above

[GreekStein]

is there no justifictation for the call given stack sizes here?

both players are all in - he is getiing >2:1 - he has an A and a Q - and can call and lose and still have 45 BB's left?

not a snap fold for me. If you have been super active - 1st guy could be going with a very light holding and 2nd guy could have 99-JJ (i know its the bottom of his range and I am trying to make the call look favourable)

I dont think this is an easy fold given the set up - i think that I probably fold after consideraton - but i wouldnt hate the call given the above

I agree actually.

[TheChipPrince]

Fold

[T_Mar]

Interesting the consensus is to fold, I dont dont mind calling here - plenty of scenarios where you are in decent shape, seems like a good spot to gamble to me

[titaniumbean]

is there no justifictation for the call given stack sizes here?

both players are all in - he is getiing >2:1 - he has an A and a Q - and can call and lose and still have 45 BB's left?

not a snap fold for me. If you have been super active - 1st guy could be going with a very light holding and 2nd guy could have 99-JJ (i know its the bottom of his range and I am trying to make the call look favourable)

I dont think this is an easy fold given the set up - i think that I probably fold after consideraton - but i wouldnt hate the call given the above

Against

22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo
and
JJ+/AQs+/AQo+

we have ~22.4%

Against

22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo
and
88+/ATs+/AJo+

we have 30.6%



If you're running good cawl and bink. I fold some of the time dependant on the players considering our stack size and just keep the ammo to keep opening. I think it all depends on the overshove range really.

[T_Mar]

Interesting the consensus is to fold, I dont dont mind calling here - plenty of scenarios where you are in decent shape, seems like a good spot to gamble to me

Just stoved this and its pretty tight actually, given pot odds we need 29% and we have 25% using following ranges so a fold looks correct - Even if you widen villian1's range which is reasonable it doesn't alter things that much



   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    25.112%     20.12%    04.99%        2147936718    532825341.17   { AdQc }
Hand 1:    28.128%     26.54%    01.59%        2833138841    169672432.67   { 22+, A7s+, KJs+, A7o+, KJo+ }
Hand 2:    46.760%     42.07%    04.69%        4491336056    500522763.17   { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }

[T_Mar]

Interesting the consensus is to fold, I dont dont mind calling here - plenty of scenarios where you are in decent shape, seems like a good spot to gamble to me

Just stoved this and its pretty tight actually, given pot odds we need 29% and we have 25% using following ranges so a fold looks correct - Even if you widen villian1's range which is reasonable it doesn't alter things that much



   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    25.112%     20.12%    04.99%        2147936718    532825341.17   { AdQc }
Hand 1:    28.128%     26.54%    01.59%        2833138841    169672432.67   { 22+, A7s+, KJs+, A7o+, KJo+ }
Hand 2:    46.760%     42.07%    04.69%        4491336056    500522763.17   { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Lol, changed my mind again... villian 2's range is wider than what I assigned above... I'm calling!!!