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« on: August 14, 2009, 02:47:40 PM » |
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£30 pound freezout in live tourn , i had kk in late postion , its folded to me i raise to for time big blind , the big blind is only caller flop comes down 7 8 9 , bb bets out 2 k i rerasie to 5 k he flat calls turn brings an ace he pushes all in for 8 k i got 6k left i fold he shows pocket tens.
The way i see it i shoudl have reraised more maybe pushed all in on flop, i couldnt put him on th ace whnen it cvam on tourn but maybe he had called with j10 or 56 ? opinons please?
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Jon MW
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2009, 02:48:39 PM » |
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What were the blinds?
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Jon "the British cowboy" Woodfield
2011 blonde MTT League August Champion
2011 UK Team Championships: Black Belt Poker Team Captain - - runners up - -
5 Star HORSE Classic - 2007 Razz Champion
2007 WSOP Razz - 13/341
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2009, 02:53:43 PM » |
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not sure what blinds are etc but surely you should commit on flop and don't fold now
i also played this comp btw and am an expert in converting 50k stack in zero - so take that fwiw
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yorky34
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2009, 02:53:59 PM » |
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75 -150 10 k starting stack i was up to 13k
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2009, 02:58:05 PM » |
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The bet sizing seems a bit weird but other than not calling on the end we seemed to have played it ok. What part of the action made you think he had an ace?
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yorky34
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2009, 03:05:27 PM » |
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my gut feeling was that he had something like ace ten suited once the turn came but on flop thought he may have had 66 so think thats why the small reraise to try get more out of him but shouldnt have give him chance to draw to straight anyway
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2009, 03:16:32 PM » |
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Raise less preflop. I know this is Gala and you'd expect to get a million callers, but you're in late position, so 3x is fine - we want to pick up a customer with this hand.
That flop sucks, and for me when it's the big blind who has called the flop worries me. He led out for 2k into a 1275 pot? Your raise is fine. Now commit on the turn, no reason he has an ace here.
If you raise less pre then the pots smaller, with only 975 in the middle. The flop bets are probably smaller and we're not playing for stacks in this awkward position.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 03:20:33 PM » |
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yeah but if people are calling 4x raises irrespective then raising 4x with KK is fine imo
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yorky34
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 03:23:23 PM » |
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yeah i didnt really want the button and small blind coming in with raggy ace as they like to do at gala , plus wanted to get more money in the pot with a big hand thats what i was thinking , but yeah charles your comments makes sense
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 03:27:21 PM » |
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yeah i didnt really want the button and small blind coming in with raggy ace as they like to do at gala , plus wanted to get more money in the pot with a big hand thats what i was thinking , but yeah charles your comments makes sense
Why not? Your post is contradicting itself. You want to get money in the pot with a big hand but you don't want people with inferior hands coming along? |
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2009, 03:28:28 PM » |
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yeah but if people are calling 4x raises irrespective then raising 4x with KK is fine imo
True. If we're happy we're getting called anyway then the 4x is fine. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 03:36:13 PM » |
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yeah true i am contradicting myself of course i want people in with inferior hands but really only want to be up agaisnt 1 person not three
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yorky34
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 03:41:01 PM » |
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i did manage to get back into it getting up to 16k before going down to 10 bb blinds then there was arasie of 5k and i pushed all in for 10 k with pocket  was up against ak and a king hit to knock me out , i dont generally like to push when been a raise but my blinds where coming up quick and new would probably ahve to win a race to get back intoit anyway so thought was right thing to do |
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 03:43:38 PM » |
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try getting up to 50k+ and then still not making the final table
try not to be results orientated, the shove with AK was 100% standard - and i was on the table
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 03:51:14 PM » |
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how did you not manage to get to final table with 50k there was only about 450k in play wasnt there? would ahve been plenty for final?
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