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« on: September 01, 2009, 10:25:17 AM »

Final table of a $50 f/o on Ipoker, DAalltheway is 18/10 over 80ish hands. You've seen him previously iso shove all-in vs a 10bb shove holding JJ but also open limp AK from early and J9 blind on blind. Crazy Penguin is 50/45 over <25 hands but has been in shove/fold mode for that period and let's be honest he's shoving a 10bb stack utg 6 handed so we're not overly worried about him.

So shove, flat or fold?


Seat 2: durrrrballs ( $106420.00 USD )
Seat 3: CrazyPenguin ( $31045.00 USD )

Seat 5: SirGall ( $58159.00 USD )
Seat 8: DAalltheway ( $97523.75 USD )
Seat 9: momoll911 ( $102939.50 USD )
Seat 10: Molesson2 ( $146912.75 USD )
Molesson2 posts ante of [$300.00 USD].
durrrrballs posts ante of [$300.00 USD].
CrazyPenguin posts ante of [$300.00 USD].
SirGall posts ante of [$300.00 USD].
DAalltheway posts ante of [$300.00 USD].
momoll911 posts ante of [$300.00 USD].
Molesson2 posts small blind [$1500.00 USD].
durrrrballs posts big blind [$3000.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to durrrrballs [  ]
CrazyPenguin raises [$30745.00 USD]
SirGall folds
DAalltheway calls [$30745.00 USD]
momoll911 folds
Molesson2 folds
durrrrballs ??
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 10:29:10 AM »

Isolate shove for me. Don't particularly like flatting this OOP.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 11:35:35 AM »

Isolate shove for me. Don't particularly like flatting this OOP.

Yep, even making it 80k looks super strong.  Depends on your reads though whether to get involved at all.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 11:53:30 AM »

Isolate shove for me. Don't particularly like flatting this OOP.

Yeah that's what I did, I thought this spot was almost standard - originally titled thread, standard shove? - but after iso shoving I got a bit of stick from the others, which to be honest confirmed to me that iso shoving was 'correct'. But wanted to get some consensus.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 02:42:25 PM »

Iso shoving is the only possible move here as far as I'm concerened.

A large amount of the time we will be getting 2:1 vs only one hand which happens to be a weaker ace. Equity party

With reads a fold might be the way to go, but those reads better pwn quite hard for you to miss out on this chance to party
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 03:04:49 PM »

Another one for the iso shove, given the dynamics that the opener has established an image for push/shove for anyone paying attention. Surely widens the flatting range DAlltheway, therefore getting it in seems standard.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 03:56:56 AM »

Meh, 18/10 looks like it knows what its doing (i assume this was fullring stats getting shorter), i think we have very low FE and would be worried about his range for flatting this. But until ur reads are stronger on him i think jamming has to be the best play.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 04:41:59 AM »

yup, am nearly always shoving here unless we have a really strong read on the flat caller.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 07:19:39 AM »

bet all your chips
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