Alan Turing - an overdue apology?

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If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I don't think that proves anything - that's just to do with the selection process in general.

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?
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The few places in print and film where his achievements are recognised rarely talk about his homosexuality - so that's a moot point on some levels.

Many people wouldn't have known about him, many people don't know about his work - doesn't mean they shouldn't though.

As a computer science graduate I obv know all about his work and what it means for the field of computing. I didn't know about his homosexuality or death though..

[kinboshi]

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?

Of course I bloody would!!  One of the greatest minds Britain's ever produced.  I refer to my OP.

If yes, would you still think he should have a Knighthood?

Erm, I think I've covered this already - yes, definitely.

If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I've said that I don't care much for the honours system, but I think he's one of the most important British people of the last few hundred years that many people know nothing or very little about.  I'll have a think of others who also lack the recognition they deserve...

[kinboshi]

Crick, Watson and Wilkins probably don't get a huge amount of recognition from the general public - although as Nobel Prize winners it's not quite right to say that they haven't been recognised.

[Rod Paradise]

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?

If yes, would you still think he should have a Knighthood?

If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I know this was addressed to Kin, but even so I've got give my view on it.

If you get a chance read Simon Singh's "The Code Book - The Secret History of Codes and Code Breaking". Turing provided the quantum leap in code breaking and by breaking some of the Enigma machines (as I remember they never managed to break the German Navy's network). Considering at one point we were back across the channel & looked like losing the war, even with good inside information on German troop movement & plans from Turing & the rest at Bletchley Park, I think it's a safe conclusion to draw that we could have lost the war before Pearl Harbour bought the Yanks in without their efforts.

The Knighthood would be nothing to do with his sexuality, his work more than earned the honour.

I'm not a fan of the honours system really, but I can't off hand think of many more deserving whose contribution has been left unpraised by the establishment.

[RED-DOG]

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?

Of course I bloody would!!  One of the greatest minds Britain's ever produced.  I refer to my OP.

If yes, would you still think he should have a Knighthood?

Erm, I think I've covered this already - yes, definitely.

If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I've said that I don't care much for the honours system, but I think he's one of the most important British people of the last few hundred years that many people know nothing or very little about.  I'll have a think of others who also lack the recognition they deserve...

 

[kinboshi]

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?

Of course I bloody would!!  One of the greatest minds Britain's ever produced.  I refer to my OP.

If yes, would you still think he should have a Knighthood?

Erm, I think I've covered this already - yes, definitely.

If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I've said that I don't care much for the honours system, but I think he's one of the most important British people of the last few hundred years that many people know nothing or very little about.  I'll have a think of others who also lack the recognition they deserve...

 

Who do you reckon Tom?

[kinboshi]

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?

If yes, would you still think he should have a Knighthood?

If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I know this was addressed to Kin, but even so I've got give my view on it.

If you get a chance read Simon Singh's "The Code Book - The Secret History of Codes and Code Breaking". Turing provided the quantum leap in code breaking and by breaking some of the Enigma machines (as I remember they never managed to break the German Navy's network). Considering at one point we were back across the channel & looked like losing the war, even with good inside information on German troop movement & plans from Turing & the rest at Bletchley Park, I think it's a safe conclusion to draw that we could have lost the war before Pearl Harbour bought the Yanks in without their efforts.

The Knighthood would be nothing to do with his sexuality, his work more than earned the honour.

I'm not a fan of the honours system really, but I can't off hand think of many more deserving whose contribution has been left unpraised by the establishment.

Thanks hun, pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly there.

[AndrewT]

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?

If yes, would you still think he should have a Knighthood?

If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I know this was addressed to Kin, but even so I've got give my view on it.

If you get a chance read Simon Singh's "The Code Book - The Secret History of Codes and Code Breaking". Turing provided the quantum leap in code breaking and by breaking some of the Enigma machines (as I remember they never managed to break the German Navy's network). Considering at one point we were back across the channel & looked like losing the war, even with good inside information on German troop movement & plans from Turing & the rest at Bletchley Park, I think it's a safe conclusion to draw that we could have lost the war before Pearl Harbour bought the Yanks in without their efforts.

The Knighthood would be nothing to do with his sexuality, his work more than earned the honour.

I'm not a fan of the honours system really, but I can't off hand think of many more deserving whose contribution has been left unpraised by the establishment.

Thanks hun, pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly there.

No, you fool - Rod is a Celtic fan.

[kinboshi]

Kin, if he was straight and lived a normal life following his work would you know about him today?

If yes, would you still think he should have a Knighthood?

If yes do you think he is the most deserving person who doesn't have one? Can you name others you'd put in front?

I know this was addressed to Kin, but even so I've got give my view on it.

If you get a chance read Simon Singh's "The Code Book - The Secret History of Codes and Code Breaking". Turing provided the quantum leap in code breaking and by breaking some of the Enigma machines (as I remember they never managed to break the German Navy's network). Considering at one point we were back across the channel & looked like losing the war, even with good inside information on German troop movement & plans from Turing & the rest at Bletchley Park, I think it's a safe conclusion to draw that we could have lost the war before Pearl Harbour bought the Yanks in without their efforts.

The Knighthood would be nothing to do with his sexuality, his work more than earned the honour.

I'm not a fan of the honours system really, but I can't off hand think of many more deserving whose contribution has been left unpraised by the establishment.

Thanks hun, pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly there.

No, you fool - Rod is a Celtic fan.

Oh, I know that - as does Rod.  'Thanks Fenian *******' doesn't have the same ring to it..

[GreekStein]

I think Tikay should be knighted

[pokefast]

I think Tikay should be knighted

For services to?

[kinboshi]

I think Tikay should be knighted

For services to?

Longevity?

[GreekStein]

I think Tikay should be knighted

For services to?

Television?

Poker?

Michelle Orpe?

[gatso]

what are the rules on being knighted if you're not british? I know they're quite strict and not many non brits make the cut. just wondering if jebus would be allowed to be a sir

[Colchester Kev]

I think Tikay should be knighted

For services to?

Television?

Poker?

Michelle Orpe?

Nope ... Hair dye