Hand advice please

[TightEnd]

This might be a simple one, but I wanted to run it by you

Good sized freezeout, 5000 starting chips, 45 minute clock

It's the second level, blinds 50-100

You have 5500

3rd Position raises to 300, he has 5500 too

You are on the button with 

You call the raise

Flop 

Raiser bets 600

You raise to 1500

Initial raiser immediately goes all in

You have never played the player before. He has played few hands

Comments on play pre flop, post flop and what to do now please


Warning: I do not know what the other guy had

[dik9]

In my view you gotta pass, I take him for mid or bottom set. Binds are still low so action will come when you are in command.

[Karabiner]

As you do not know what he had, I'm assuming that you passed.

I think that I would have done the same as it "feels" like AA.

It's one of those where you just have to trust your instincts IMO.

[ACE2M]

Pass. Depends on the buy in etc but everything says pass to me.

[TightEnd]

As you do not know what he had, I'm assuming that you passed.

I think that I would have done the same as it "feels" like AA.

It's one of those where you just have to trust your instincts IMO.

I passed yes

It gnawed away at me though. Is this a standard pass?

I know some players can make his all in play on say As   for example, but without knowledge of the opponent I felt I had to release

[londonpokergirl]

sounds like aces , but I wouldn't have gone all in at that point, so if he had aces it was bad play on him
 

[rivered]

ditto - think he had AA, KK, TT or 99... lots of draws out there to make him go all in like that... i woulda folded for sure

[Highstack]

Well he hasn't raised in positon 3 to 6bb with QJ so we can discount that. Therefore let's think about the hands that are beating you: AA or set; possible lead out if he wants to protect from cheap draws (if he puts you on eg KQ) but imo he would want to see a brick on the turn or let you hang yourself and if that is his hand, then the immediate reraise (imo) is bad play.

My guess is that he too has the AK, you have rightly taken the lead but he has not resisted. The problem is in your initial statement that you don't know him. I think you must pass and look for another opportunity. You can't win the tournament here but you can lose it. You have plenty of chips left by folding and a good clock to be patient and work out your opposition.

His play after will tell you if it was a good pass and if you decide that he is loose, then you have position and no doubt an opportunity to regain those chips (providing someone else doesn't get there before you).

[Highstack]

You are right about those nut flush draws TightEnd, but he raised preflop in seat three. He doesn't have A8s unless he is a complete fekkin fish

[snoopy1239]

I'd pass and live another day.

Okay, he may have been semi-bluffing with  As , but, even if you call, your hand would still be excruciatingly vulnerable.

I agree with Karabiner, smells like aces to me.

[robyong]

not many hands you are beating, I would have re-raise on the button with AK, AQ, KK, QQ, JJ to find out if i was snooker pre-flop.

[snoopy1239]

not many hands you are beating, I would have re-raise on the button with AK, AQ, KK, QQ, JJ to find out if i was snooker pre-flop.

Same here. From the button, a reraise preflop would (i) Put you in control with better position and (ii) Give you information on his hand and enable you to find out if he has those darn aces.

[TightEnd]

this is true guys, but my plan early in comps is to disguise AK somewhat, therefore if the A comes on the flop you can't be put on AK and  furthermore you can get away from AK easily if you miss and face action, so you don't have to re-raise and blow chips on a drawing hand


granted though, it can lead to trouble like here

[byronkincaid]

I'm experimenting at the moment with a new style so it's quite probable that I'm even fishier than normal but I'm calling the pre flop raise, then calling the flop bet. There are flush and straight draws out there for you to represent with small bets/raises in the next couple of streets. I'm trying to keep the pot small and take it away from him later. Possibly just a calling station tho

[Highstack]

The big problem with that Byron (although I do like the sentiment of keeping it a small pot) is that apart from allowing cheap free cards, if your opponent is betting the draw and he misses, he may still put in a large uncallable bet on the river forcing you to give up the hand. With no information on your opponent it is difficult to assess where you are in the hand and whether he is 'at it'. This means that not only are you gaining no information, that the raise does by trying to take the lead, you are also probably calling off more chips than the 1500.