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[kinboshi]

I think this sort of stuff tilts Red-Dog like it tilts me.

The one that always gets me is the Mobo awards. Guaran-damn-teed that would never be allowed to happen the other way round.

Where did you say you'd played on a table with Greekfish? Was that event not open only to a limited section of the community?

It was the Greek Championships.  It's not legal to hold it in Greece so they had it at DTD.  Same as the Norwegian Champs.

[the sicilian]

it's music of black origin, a catch-all to take in a range of musical genres. You don't have to be black to be nominated/win an award.

substitue the word black for white and see the world disintergrate...

black peope were slaves for hundreds of years though, theres not that sort of taboo about substituting the words black for white for no reason, black people were marginalised by white people for so long, you can see why it would be innaproppriote, it's not pc gone mad, just the way things are.

The key word is 'were'... slavery was wrong ..end of...  we,they,everyone are equal now.... harping back about something sorted out the best part of 200 years ago only fuels the mindset of division..

[kinboshi]

it's music of black origin, a catch-all to take in a range of musical genres. You don't have to be black to be nominated/win an award.

substitue the word black for white and see the world disintergrate...

black peope were slaves for hundreds of years though, theres not that sort of taboo about substituting the words black for white for no reason, black people were marginalised by white people for so long, you can see why it would be innaproppriote, it's not pc gone mad, just the way things are.

The key word is 'were'... slavery was wrong ..end of...  we,they,everyone are equal now.... harping back about something sorted out the best part of 200 years ago only fuels the mindset of division..

It was sorted out 200 years ago?

What was that Martin Luther King going on about in the 1960s?

[the sicilian]

it's music of black origin, a catch-all to take in a range of musical genres. You don't have to be black to be nominated/win an award.

substitue the word black for white and see the world disintergrate...

black peope were slaves for hundreds of years though, theres not that sort of taboo about substituting the words black for white for no reason, black people were marginalised by white people for so long, you can see why it would be innaproppriote, it's not pc gone mad, just the way things are.

The key word is 'were'... slavery was wrong ..end of...  we,they,everyone are equal now.... harping back about something sorted out the best part of 200 years ago only fuels the mindset of division..

It was sorted out 200 years ago?

What was that Martin Luther King going on about in the 1960s?

was talking UK... The Slavery Abolition Act 1833  america 1865
ur talking civil rights not slavery...

[bolt pp]

it's music of black origin, a catch-all to take in a range of musical genres. You don't have to be black to be nominated/win an award.

substitue the word black for white and see the world disintergrate...

black peope were slaves for hundreds of years though, theres not that sort of taboo about substituting the words black for white for no reason, black people were marginalised by white people for so long, you can see why it would be innaproppriote, it's not pc gone mad, just the way things are.

The key word is 'were'... slavery was wrong ..end of...  we,they,everyone are equal now.... harping back about something sorted out the best part of 200 years ago only fuels the mindset of division..

people do still harp on about it, a lot of white people still believe in it and a lot of black people are still angry about it, it is the reason(and quite a reasonable one) why you can have a black origins music award but not a white one, the negative connotation of "white only" is still there.

[the sicilian]

it's music of black origin, a catch-all to take in a range of musical genres. You don't have to be black to be nominated/win an award.

substitue the word black for white and see the world disintergrate...

black peope were slaves for hundreds of years though, theres not that sort of taboo about substituting the words black for white for no reason, black people were marginalised by white people for so long, you can see why it would be innaproppriote, it's not pc gone mad, just the way things are.

The key word is 'were'... slavery was wrong ..end of...  we,they,everyone are equal now.... harping back about something sorted out the best part of 200 years ago only fuels the mindset of division..

people do still harp on about it, a lot of white people still believe in it and a lot of black people are still angry about it, it is the reason(and quite a reasonable one) why you can have a black origins music award but not a white one, the negative connotation of "white only" is still there.

Unfortunatley its deep seated in minorities on both sides... but i dont think having something called the MOBO's helps... its an award for a number of related musical generes...and many many white people were involed in said generes evolution... there fore why not call it the award for Music of Urban Origination ?

[AndrewT]

The only reason why the MOBOs were set up is because British black music and acts never got a look in at the Brit Awards.

It wasn't a 'this will right the wrongs of slavery' thing, it was just so that people like Beverly Knight might sell a few more records.

[Ismene]

The one thing  that drives me nutty is when nursery rhymes such as baa baa black sheep are deemed racist.


Why are they deemed such? Because ignorant fools don't check their facts and make assumptions.... Which then leads to the original meaning / connotation being lost.


Baa baa black sheep have you any wool?  Bloody hell yes mate and it's all TAX FREE because it's black - Black sheep were coveted. It was a positive thing!

SIGH

[AndrewT]

Unfortunatley its deep seated in minorities on both sides... but i dont think having something called the MOBO's helps... its an award for a number of related musical generes...and many many white people were involed in said generes evolution... there fore why not call it the award for Music of Urban Origination ?

I bought MOJO magazine the other day and was disappointed to discover there were hardly any Jews in it at all.

[the sicilian]

The only reason why the MOBOs were set up is because British black music and acts never got a look in at the Brit Awards.

It wasn't a 'this will right the wrongs of slavery' thing, it was just so that people like Beverly Knight might sell a few more records.

dina carrol, seal,fyc, five star,shirley bassey,randy crawford all pre 1996 winners of major brit awards....

[the sicilian]

Unfortunatley its deep seated in minorities on both sides... but i dont think having something called the MOBO's helps... its an award for a number of related musical generes...and many many white people were involed in said generes evolution... there fore why not call it the award for Music of Urban Origination ?

I bought MOJO magazine the other day and was disappointed to discover there were hardly any Jews in it at all.

dont start with the middle east for gawds sake andrew......

[kinboshi]

it's music of black origin, a catch-all to take in a range of musical genres. You don't have to be black to be nominated/win an award.

substitue the word black for white and see the world disintergrate...

black peope were slaves for hundreds of years though, theres not that sort of taboo about substituting the words black for white for no reason, black people were marginalised by white people for so long, you can see why it would be innaproppriote, it's not pc gone mad, just the way things are.

The key word is 'were'... slavery was wrong ..end of...  we,they,everyone are equal now.... harping back about something sorted out the best part of 200 years ago only fuels the mindset of division..

It was sorted out 200 years ago?

What was that Martin Luther King going on about in the 1960s?

was talking UK... The Slavery Abolition Act 1833  america 1865
ur talking civil rights not slavery...

I was talking about racial discrimination in general.

[byronkincaid]

so the people who don't approve of womens only poker are against the men are banned from playing part?

black radio and asian radio not white radio and gay pride not straight pride is fine because whites can listen and straights can join in?

have i got this correct?

(btw bolt electro east on the iplayer is usually great if you haven't heard it)

 

[HOLDorFOLD]

I think this sort of stuff tilts Red-Dog like it tilts me.

It tilts me as well.   

For years women have wanted to be seen as equal to men in a lot of areas.  Poker is an ideal place where we can have total equality in playing ability and prizes (unlike snooker if you look at the cash prizes - unless this has changed in recent years). 

If the tours are there for women only, then it does make sense for good women poker players to enter as they would have an obvious edge and at the end of the day you play poker to win money. However, I am not keen on it as for me it's like 'here's the women's only section as they need one'.  WHY does there have to be a women's only tour, if some people don't like the idea of playing poker against men then tough IMO.

Out of curiosity, what are men's opinions of playing on a table full of women with them being the lone male - would you feel intinidated, would you be distracted, would it make no difference whatsoever?

Women only tours are probably here to stay but I for one would like to see it balanced with men only tours - but that would never happen, I could imagine the outcry and chants of 'injustice' etc.  GRRRRRRRRR   so so wrong.

[AndrewT]

Out of curiosity, what are men's opinions of playing on a table full of women with them being the lone male - would you feel intinidated, would you be distracted, would it make no difference whatsoever?

I wouldn't bluff, I can tell you that much.