Dirty River multiway v reg 200nl

[AlexMartin]

Villain is 20/16/3, about a million hands on him. Decent, sometimes out of line, generally very taggy/solid makes few mistakes. This session iv had a v high 3b, but not really been targeting him. Not too interested in previous streets, just want thoughts on river action.

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 574009144 *****
NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, September 09, 20:23:03 GMT 2009
Table Oxygen 127 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: IownTheF1sh ( $578.25 )
Seat 2: DrCordy ( $202.25 )
Seat 3: rockeymax ( $709.20 )
Seat 4: JammyJenny ( $308.95 )
Seat 5: footloose ( $243 )
Seat 6: Senol ( $294.25 )
rockeymax posts small blind [$1]
JammyJenny posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [ , ]
footloose folds
Senol raises to [$7]
IownTheF1sh calls [$7]
DrCordy calls [$7]
rockeymax calls [$6]
JammyJenny calls [$5]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
rockeymax checks
JammyJenny checks
Senol checks
IownTheF1sh checks
DrCordy checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
rockeymax checks
JammyJenny bets [$20]
Senol folds
IownTheF1sh folds
DrCordy calls [$20]
rockeymax folds
** Dealing River ** [ ]
JammyJenny checks
DrCordy bets [$64]

[Longy]

Alex you are going to have so much better idea what to do against a reg here, given you probably have a tonne of history.

I would fold but I feel so out of touch with cash games that I am probably not reading his range correctly which imo is more heavly weighted to hands you are losing to. Only can see missed flushes potting this river and some of them have   in them.

[outragous76]

I think he v bets the 7 here. If has no reason to think anyone will pay a pot bet with top pair.  Im inclined to think missed flush. As played check call. Why didnt you lead for like 25? Kind of a quasi blocker bet. If he raises you can fold.   

[Doobs]

snap call vs him

[George2Loose]

I think he v bets the 7 here. If has no reason to think anyone will pay a pot bet with top pair.  Im inclined to think missed flush. As played check call. Why didnt you lead for like 25? Kind of a quasi blocker bet. If he raises you can fold.   

This is so exploitable esp. if they're regs.

I would check call here cos his range is polarised. So many hands with showdown value he's checking on the river on this board.

[GreekStein]

I'm a pay off wizard so I call.

You're Alex Martin so either soulown him and call or soulown him and pass.

[outragous76]

George. Alex has completed out of the bb. He could easily have a random 7 or even 2pr. Cant see a none 7 hand raising a lead here. My own line would be check call, but there must be merit in a lead to prevent having to pay off the pot bet?   

[George2Loose]

George. Alex has completed out of the bb. He could easily have a random 7 or even 2pr. Cant see a none 7 hand raising a lead here. My own line would be check call, but there must be merit in a lead to prevent having to pay off the pot bet?   

Would you really value bet 25$ here with a 7? If Alex's bet sizing is consistent then ok but a lead from the sb screams weakness and any decent reg would may spot this. Unless Alex is willing to small bet to induce a bluff I much prefer check/call to lead/fold

[outragous76]

Fml. Just typed a huge reply and lost it. Will try from a pc if i can find one later. In short as i was typing ranges, i think villains range includes a flopped set, as he thinks we v bet a 7. Fml. Fml Fml. It was very long!

[titaniumbean]

How is he going to view the pfr's flop check? considering he checked back that flop last to act I think he's weighted more towards 74/76/88 hands; would he c/back a low fd to be tricky and stop from being c/r off his hand? It all depends on your history with him though, my first reaction seems to be to fold I think.

edit- why lead river is 99 getting there like this and calling us?

I think we deffo have to check  because as george says he's going to check back a ton of his call a bet on the turn after flop checks through range which has showdown, is he going to try and vbet 89? How would you be percieved as acting in other multiway pots? are you taking them down whenever poss and always stabbing when pfr checks if so you might have to c/c but I think this is deffo a c/f.

Outrageous he is just opening himself up to get value raise owned or fold out all the hands he gets value from on the river by checking.


edit 2 -ugh it's 64 into 68? I wish it was a bit less, anything near the full pot honestly makes the stars clients call button twitch showing me the way lolo. I still fold but i'ma nit.

[titaniumbean]

George. Alex has completed out of the bb. He could easily have a random 7 or even 2pr. Cant see a none 7 hand raising a lead here. My own line would be check call, but there must be merit in a lead to prevent having to pay off the pot bet?  

Would you really value bet 25$ here with a 7? If Alex's bet sizing is consistent then ok but a lead from the sb screams weakness and any decent reg would may spot this. Unless Alex is willing to small bet to induce a bluff I much prefer check/call to lead/fold

I'm pretty sure the bet size would be closer to a shove than 25 with a 7 in heros hand.  


edit - talking of that do you have any overbet history with him?

[titaniumbean]

Fml. Just typed a huge reply and lost it. Will try from a pc if i can find one later. In short as i was typing ranges, i think villains range includes a flopped set, as he thinks we v bet a 7. Fml. Fml Fml. It was very long!

I don't think villains range includes many flopped sets 4 way on draw heavy boards when he's last to act.

[mondatoo]

I'm a pay off wizard so I call.

You're Alex Martin so either soulown him and call or soulown him and pass.

This

[pleno1]

bet/fold

as played it really is player dependant, but i like check calling against aggro opponents.

[keilan303]

Squeeze or fold preflop!