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easypickings
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Put the clock on him!
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September 10, 2009, 02:38:52 PM »
Watching the hand where Mark Goodwin bizarrely had the clock put on him in the middle of a massive pot by a Spaniard in Barcelona, made me realise what a bizarre rule it is.
It's the only rule where another player can arbritrarily decide to screw your decision making process, even if they're not in the hand. What do people think?
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September 10, 2009, 02:41:59 PM »
Quote from: easypickings on September 10, 2009, 02:38:52 PM
Watching the hand where Mark Goodwin bizarrely had the clock put on him in the middle of a massive pot by a Spaniard in Barcelona, made me realise what a bizarre rule it is.
It's the only rule where another player can arbritrarily decide to screw your decision making process, even if they're not in the hand. What do people think?
I dont see how the dealer in this sort of situation doesn't say sorry sir it's been 2 mins 30 and look at your stack size. be quiet. you say it again? i kick you in ze nuts as formal penalty.....
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September 10, 2009, 02:46:02 PM »
Yeah, in fact, I think one of the problems with the clock is that the dealer actually very often doesn't do anything at all.
Whenever, the clock is called, it's often much longer than a minute of confusion, as it takes a couple of mintues for the dealer to get with it and call the floor over.
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September 10, 2009, 02:51:06 PM »
Quote from: titaniumbean on September 10, 2009, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: easypickings on September 10, 2009, 02:38:52 PM
Watching the hand where Mark Goodwin bizarrely had the clock put on him in the middle of a massive pot by a Spaniard in Barcelona, made me realise what a bizarre rule it is.
It's the only rule where another player can arbritrarily decide to screw your decision making process, even if they're not in the hand. What do people think?
I dont see how the dealer in this sort of situation doesn't say sorry sir it's been 2 mins 30 and look at your stack size. be quiet. you say it again? i kick you in ze nuts as formal penalty.....
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September 10, 2009, 03:08:43 PM »
Agree. And actually, maybe the solution is for all time management to be in the hands of the dealer?
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September 10, 2009, 03:29:00 PM »
Quote from: easypickings on September 10, 2009, 03:08:43 PM
Agree. And actually, maybe the solution is for all time management to be in the hands of the dealer?
IT IS
If a player calls a clock it's at the dealers discretion to determine if it's been long enough for the game and situation. If it's been too long, then 'FLOOR', you have 1 minute sir. If not it should be 'KAPOW' KIK IN DE NUTS be quiet pls sir your right to call clocks is revoked for 5 minutes.
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September 10, 2009, 03:37:08 PM »
True. Or automatic clock on that player for the rest of the day.
I thought Mark did incredibly well to keep his cool, when the Spanish guy had very obviously made his decision about 10 times tougher.
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September 10, 2009, 03:39:27 PM »
Quote from: easypickings on September 10, 2009, 03:37:08 PM
True. Or automatic clock on that player for the rest of the day.
I thought Mark did incredibly well to keep his cool, when the Spanish guy had very obviously made his decision about 10 times tougher.
how does he fold that though?
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September 10, 2009, 03:42:41 PM »
At the DTD £300 about 2 months ago Ade Bayo called the clock on me after about 1 minute in a huge pot for stacks.
After, when I pulled him up on it he said 'yeah I wanted to influence your decision'.
This was from a guy who's been playing the game years. Some people just have no idea of what etiquette is.
I think there should be a rule made as to what constitutes a reasonable amount of time as sometimes players abuse having time on the bubble to just delay their decisions for ages.
Do you have the link to the video in question Stu?
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September 10, 2009, 03:44:14 PM »
I think it's kind of tough, as he can only beat a stinking bluff on that board.
It's a horrible spot, but I think his only mistake is the flat call before the flop. Surely it just has to be a ship or fold before the flop?
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Re: Put the clock on him!
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September 10, 2009, 03:50:09 PM »
Quote from: GreekStein on September 10, 2009, 03:42:41 PM
At the DTD £300 about 2 months ago
Ade Bayo
called the clock on me after about 1 minute in a huge pot for stacks.
After, when I pulled him up on it he said 'yeah I wanted to influence your decision'.
This was from a guy who's been playing the game years. Some people just have no idea of what
etiquette
is.
I think there should be a rule made as to what constitutes a reasonable amount of time as sometimes players abuse having time on the bubble to just delay their decisions for ages.
Do you have the link to the video in question Stu?
Sorry, but you cannot use "Ade Bayo" & "etiquette" in the same Post.
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September 10, 2009, 03:52:50 PM »
Wow, this Ade is the guy who could be heard from the other side of the room at EPT Dublin a couple of years afo? (Bizarrely enough, berating Mark Goodwin)
I'll look for the video now.
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September 10, 2009, 03:52:53 PM »
Ade Bayo is a self proclaimed cock.
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Re: Put the clock on him!
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Quote from: tikay on September 10, 2009, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on September 10, 2009, 03:42:41 PM
At the DTD £300 about 2 months ago
Ade Bayo
called the clock on me after about 1 minute in a huge pot for stacks.
After, when I pulled him up on it he said 'yeah I wanted to influence your decision'.
This was from a guy who's been playing the game years. Some people just have no idea of what
etiquette
is.
I think there should be a rule made as to what constitutes a reasonable amount of time as sometimes players abuse having time on the bubble to just delay their decisions for ages.
Do you have the link to the video in question Stu?
Sorry, but you cannot use "Ade Bayo" & "etiquette" in the same Post.
Yeh +1. That geezer is a prat
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Re: Put the clock on him!
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September 10, 2009, 03:55:25 PM »
Quote from: easypickings on September 10, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
I think it's kind of tough, as he can only beat a stinking bluff on that board.
It's a horrible spot, but I think his only mistake is the flat call before the flop. Surely it just has to be a ship or fold before the flop?
Yeh pre isn't good but once you do do that and put that much in and then he reps AA or QQ that checked the flop after small 4 betting pre. and goodwin has AA and an A out there. What did he call AK pre to hit?
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