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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2009, 03:57:16 PM »

I did come out with a good line to him at the DTD £300 though.

When he was telling the whole table how he was the most profitable small stakes live tournament player in the country I simply replied, "You're talking to the wrong audience, none of us play small stakes mate". I was quite proud of that.

Shame by sfd missed vs his top pair for the world.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 03:57:22 PM »

Best I can do is find the highlights:

http://www.pokerstars.tv/channels/TPI/live.html

Yeah, it was actually nowhere near as bad as our man Ade. But given the size and situation of the pot, it seemed bizarre for someone not involved to call the clock after just 2-3 minutes. Once that minute is on you, I find that any clear thought goes out of the window, and it became impossible for Mark to do much but pass.
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009, 03:59:22 PM »

Ade Bayo is a self proclaimed cock.

The thing is, he's allowed to get away with all that shouty nonsense at the Gushot/International, because they are scared of losing his custom, but he thinks he can do it everywhere. Fortunately, some Establishments are run a little better.

We had a run-in at Gutshot one day, he was giving it all the usual gobby stuff, & I told him to grow up, & he got a bit tetchy about it. Afterwards, he came & explained that, away from the Table, he was a nice bloke. He seemed quite sure of his facts.
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009, 04:00:32 PM »

Best I can do is find the highlights:

http://www.pokerstars.tv/channels/TPI/live.html

Yeah, it was actually nowhere near as bad as our man Ade. But given the size and situation of the pot, it seemed bizarre for someone not involved to call the clock after just 2-3 minutes. Once that minute is on you, I find that any clear thought goes out of the window, and it became impossible for Mark to do much but pass.

I just dont get the hand. Scummy to have the clock called like that though.
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2009, 04:01:38 PM »

I did come out with a good line to him at the DTD £300 though.

When he was telling the whole table how he was the most profitable small stakes live tournament player in the country I simply replied, "You're talking to the wrong audience, none of us play small stakes mate". I was quite proud of that.

Shame by sfd missed vs his top pair for the world.

Oh yes, that's his standard line. "Nobody has won more at Gutshot than me". He's a nice bloke away from the Table though. As far away as poss, imo.
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2009, 04:02:02 PM »

Ade Bayo is a self proclaimed cock.

The thing is, he's allowed to get away with all that shouty nonsense at the Gushot/International, because they are scared of losing his custom, but he thinks he can do it everywhere. Fortunately, some Establishments are run a little better.

We had a run-in at Gutshot one day, he was giving it all the usual gobby stuff, & I told him to grow up, & he got a bit tetchy about it. Afterwards, he came & explained that, away from the Table, he was a nice bloke. He seemed quite sure of his facts.

Ahh he's quite right then Tikay, you're allowed to behave like an (insert 4 letter word) at the table if you're nice away from it, didn't you know?
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2009, 04:02:13 PM »

I think it's kind of tough, as he can only beat a stinking bluff on that board.

It's a horrible spot, but I think his only mistake is the flat call before the flop. Surely it just has to be a ship or fold before the flop?


Yeh pre isn't good but once you do do that and put that much in and then he reps AA or QQ that checked the flop after small 4 betting pre. and goodwin has AA and an A out there. What did he call AK pre to hit?

I agree completely, I think Carter's line is actually pretty bad. If he had aanythingon a flop of Q109 hh, even as strong as a set, he would surely have to bet it. So, by checking the flop and betting the ace turn, he's surely only repping the same hand as Mark.
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2009, 04:03:02 PM »

Ade Bayo is a self proclaimed cock.

The thing is, he's allowed to get away with all that shouty nonsense at the Gushot/International, because they are scared of losing his custom, but he thinks he can do it everywhere. Fortunately, some Establishments are run a little better.

We had a run-in at Gutshot one day, he was giving it all the usual gobby stuff, & I told him to grow up, & he got a bit tetchy about it. Afterwards, he came & explained that, away from the Table, he was a nice bloke. He seemed quite sure of his facts.

Ahh he's quite right then Tikay, you're allowed to behave like an (insert 4 letter word) at the table if you're nice away from it, didn't you know?

Apparently so.

Or, dropping into Kidz-speak.....

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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2009, 04:06:37 PM »

I think it's kind of tough, as he can only beat a stinking bluff on that board.

It's a horrible spot, but I think his only mistake is the flat call before the flop. Surely it just has to be a ship or fold before the flop?


Yeh pre isn't good but once you do do that and put that much in and then he reps AA or QQ that checked the flop after small 4 betting pre. and goodwin has AA and an A out there. What did he call AK pre to hit?

I agree completely, I think Carter's line is actually pretty bad. If he had aanythingon a flop of Q109 hh, even as strong as a set, he would surely have to bet it. So, by checking the flop and betting the ace turn, he's surely only repping the same hand as Mark.

Carter doesn't like the flop and is c/f since 68s somehow didnt smash the flop, how unfair. That flop looks great for MG's range. The turn is his only stab but since MG checked back and either has AK or like QQ/JJ maybe a confused and misplayed pre AQ? Carter isn't firing again on the river  into what MGs range looks like after calling turn with that psr. I think MG should shove the turn though now he's got there like that.

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2009, 04:07:49 PM »

Shame how poker sometimes turns nice people into idiots.

It seemed that the Spanish guy didn't mean anything too maliciously, but saw that the cameras were there, and thought "I know, I've seen people call the clock in this type of spot before, maybe I'll try to look good by doing the same."

How Mark didn't even react is very impressive!
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2009, 04:10:00 PM »

Ade Bayo is a self proclaimed cock.

The thing is, he's allowed to get away with all that shouty nonsense at the Gushot/International, because they are scared of losing his custom, but he thinks he can do it everywhere. Fortunately, some Establishments are run a little better.

We had a run-in at Gutshot one day, he was giving it all the usual gobby stuff, & I told him to grow up, & he got a bit tetchy about it. Afterwards, he came & explained that, away from the Table, he was a nice bloke. He seemed quite sure of his facts.

Ahh he's quite right then Tikay, you're allowed to behave like an (insert 4 letter word) at the table if you're nice away from it, didn't you know?

Apparently so.

Or, dropping into Kidz-speak.....

word

Speaking of kidz speak, what does "fade" mean?
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2009, 04:10:25 PM »

I think it's kind of tough, as he can only beat a stinking bluff on that board.

It's a horrible spot, but I think his only mistake is the flat call before the flop. Surely it just has to be a ship or fold before the flop?


Yeh pre isn't good but once you do do that and put that much in and then he reps AA or QQ that checked the flop after small 4 betting pre. and goodwin has AA and an A out there. What did he call AK pre to hit?

I agree completely, I think Carter's line is actually pretty bad. If he had aanythingon a flop of Q109 hh, even as strong as a set, he would surely have to bet it. So, by checking the flop and betting the ace turn, he's surely only repping the same hand as Mark.

Carter doesn't like the flop and is c/f since 68s somehow didnt smash the flop, how unfair. That flop looks great for MG's range. The turn is his only stab but since MG checked back and either has AK or like QQ/JJ maybe a confused and misplayed pre AQ? Carter isn't firing again on the river  into what MGs range looks like after calling turn with that psr. I think MG should shove the turn though now he's got there like that.



I agree, I actually don't like Carter's play at all, I think it was just one final stab. And it maybe worked for the most bizarre of reasons.


Yep, the frustrating thing was, I think he shuts down on the river, so Mark might not even have to push.
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2009, 04:12:10 PM »

Ade Bayo is a self proclaimed cock.

The thing is, he's allowed to get away with all that shouty nonsense at the Gushot/International, because they are scared of losing his custom, but he thinks he can do it everywhere. Fortunately, some Establishments are run a little better.

We had a run-in at Gutshot one day, he was giving it all the usual gobby stuff, & I told him to grow up, & he got a bit tetchy about it. Afterwards, he came & explained that, away from the Table, he was a nice bloke. He seemed quite sure of his facts.

Ahh he's quite right then Tikay, you're allowed to behave like an (insert 4 letter word) at the table if you're nice away from it, didn't you know?

Apparently so.

Or, dropping into Kidz-speak.....

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Speaking of kidz speak, what does "fade" mean?

It means "avoid." So, if you "fade" some outs, you avoid them.

It's why all these kids are so good at poker, they know how to fade.
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2009, 04:12:49 PM »

Ade Bayo is a self proclaimed cock.

The thing is, he's allowed to get away with all that shouty nonsense at the Gushot/International, because they are scared of losing his custom, but he thinks he can do it everywhere. Fortunately, some Establishments are run a little better.

We had a run-in at Gutshot one day, he was giving it all the usual gobby stuff, & I told him to grow up, & he got a bit tetchy about it. Afterwards, he came & explained that, away from the Table, he was a nice bloke. He seemed quite sure of his facts.

Ahh he's quite right then Tikay, you're allowed to behave like an (insert 4 letter word) at the table if you're nice away from it, didn't you know?

Apparently so.

Or, dropping into Kidz-speak.....

word

Speaking of kidz speak, what does "fade" mean?

It's Yank-speak for cover as in cover a bet, ie I'll fade your $20
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2009, 04:12:57 PM »

I think it's kind of tough, as he can only beat a stinking bluff on that board.

It's a horrible spot, but I think his only mistake is the flat call before the flop. Surely it just has to be a ship or fold before the flop?


Yeh pre isn't good but once you do do that and put that much in and then he reps AA or QQ that checked the flop after small 4 betting pre. and goodwin has AA and an A out there. What did he call AK pre to hit?

I agree completely, I think Carter's line is actually pretty bad. If he had aanythingon a flop of Q109 hh, even as strong as a set, he would surely have to bet it. So, by checking the flop and betting the ace turn, he's surely only repping the same hand as Mark.

Carter doesn't like the flop and is c/f since 68s somehow didnt smash the flop, how unfair. That flop looks great for MG's range. The turn is his only stab but since MG checked back and either has AK or like QQ/JJ maybe a confused and misplayed pre AQ? Carter isn't firing again on the river  into what MGs range looks like after calling turn with that psr. I think MG should shove the turn though now he's got there like that.



I agree, I actually don't like Carter's play at all, I think it was just one final stab. And it maybe worked for the most bizarre of reasons.


Yep, the frustrating thing was, I think he shuts down on the river, so Mark might not even have to push.
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Carter is obligated to bet turn when its the A and MG checked. But it's prob bad unless he thinks he can be defending light deep which I dont think he would do. MG should shove the turn to take it down there without showdown with so much in the pot.
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