Genealogy

[pokefast]

If the record it's on just hasn't been transcribed then you might as well just wait for them to get round to it - it's not clear cut though, it might be a problem to do with how it's been transcribed.

Either way, then wait and come back to it is a good course.

There really should be the odd line or two in your family tree that you can just work back to the early 19th century without any hassle.

There is if i'm honest but i can't let this go till its sorted its my ocd you see 

I've been back to the other trees that share the same Thomas Colledge and on one of those a second wife for him appears as Mary Alice ( no surname ) born abt 1867 which would tie in with both census of 1891 and 1901. Gonna search the births for possible surnames and then the original marriage indexes on findmypast.

[pokefast]

Think i've now cracked the second wife issue as well.

I think his second wife is Mary Alice Harrison because:

There is a Mary Alice Harrison listed as born in 1867 in the birth index ( and i'm sure its Mary Alice because of the other 2 trees that i share Thomas Colledge with ).

There is no record of marriage to Thomas because i could only find his name in the marriage index because as Jon says it hasn't been transcribed yet.

But what i think is the clincher is in the 1901 census Thomas is the head with Mary A as wife and a ten year old girl called Annie Harrison as niece.

More confirmation needed but i think i'm nearly there.

[pokefast]

Is it possible that a child showing up on the census as Thomas Colledge could be Tom Colledge on birth index?

Dates match and everything.

[pokefast]

I've found my great great grandfather.

According to all census 1851-1901 his year of birth is about 1849.

However the only one i can find on the birth index is born in 1846,can they really be 3 years out here?

As an aside he never lives with his parents his first census entry is 1851 living with his aunt and uncle.

[Jon MW]

The census information has the date when the census was taken.

i.e. depending on that it might actually only be 2 years out

If you're sure that's him then that would be a good birth certificate to get. Might be the only way to find his parents, then use the 1841 census to find more about them.

[pokefast]

The census information has the date when the census was taken.

i.e. depending on that it might actually only be 2 years out

If you're sure that's him then that would be a good birth certificate to get. Might be the only way to find his parents, then use the 1841 census to find more about them.

Not totally sure it is him.

There are 2 with the same name ( Isaac Kelsey )

Prime suspect is born Dec 1848 in the district of meriden plus he ties up with a death record in 1912.

No2 is born in 3rd Quarter of 1846 in the district of foleshill ( no death record as yet ).

However it is these birth districts that are confusing me a little.

Confusing me more however is that in all the census only 1 Isaac comes up the same one all the time with a birth year of abt 1849 in Fillongley.

No1 is closer in birth to the census ( only a month out ) but the district is wrong ( unless Meriden is part of Foleshill )

No2 is more accurate in district but nearly 3 years out on birth.

I checked the death records in case one of them died as an infant but there is nothing there to suggest they did.

Don't really want to get wrong certificates.

Any thoughts?

[Jon MW]

Find Meriden

[pokefast]

Find Meriden

What do you mean find Meriden?

[Jon MW]

...but the district is wrong ( unless Meriden is part of Foleshill )
...

Don't leave questions unanswered.

Find it out.

[pokefast]

...but the district is wrong ( unless Meriden is part of Foleshill )
...

Don't leave questions unanswered.

Find it out.

My guess is ( and its a fairly educated one ) that all census state place of birth in Fillongley. Now Meriden is geographically closer to Fillongley than Foleshill is so stands to reason that people born in fillongley get registered in Meriden.

Well seems logical to me anyway.

Will check tomorrow if Meriden has a register office and if so will ring them.

Does the above sound plausible?

[pokefast]

Morning all.

Is it possible that people could be missed off a census?

Reason i ask is i'm missing an entire family from the 1881 census. They appear in every other one but seem to have vanished in 1881.

[Jon MW]

Yes they can.

If people were travelling from one place to another on the night of the census they can be easily missed out, it's also possible that they were on some records which got damaged so that there was never a chance to transcribe them.

[pokefast]

Yes they can.

If people were travelling from one place to another on the night of the census they can be easily missed out, it's also possible that they were on some records which got damaged so that there was never a chance to transcribe them.

Thanks Jon that seems like a reasonable explanation as to why i can't find them then.

[pokefast]

Do ancestry and findmypast have birth records pre 1837?

[Jon MW]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Register_Office

Ancestry has some parish records, and freebmd.org.uk has an offshoot which has some and sometimes people have transcribed specific parishes and put them online.

But County Archives and local libraries are the more likely source.