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« on: October 13, 2009, 12:20:37 PM »

Playing the stars $20 1R1A

Blinds are 300/600 + 50

I've got about 20k oppo has about the same.

330 players left, lots to go before the money.

I'm in the cut off with  and raise to 1400

BB 3 bets to 4400

Now I know that if we're going to 4 bet here we have to have a plan. Unfortunately I didn't. For some reason I decided that the BB just thought I was at it. Don't ask me why. I think I was a bit on tilt because of the disconnection problems everyone was facing.

So I make it 9400 and the BB instashoves.

I give the dog a quick kick and then hit time bank to have a think.

So I've made a huge error but now what? Do I compound that error by calling because I've got the right price against everything but AA?

I know that I'm behind and I've got a 30% chance of winning but that still means I'll most likely lose.

Call and win gives me 40k chips. Nowhere near chip lead and by no means certain to make the money.

Fold and I've still got 17 bbs and a chance to recover.

So what's the preferred action for the recovery plan?
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 12:26:41 PM »

I would fold...and tilt my stack off in the few hands after this.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 12:32:11 PM »

Interesting question as long as people avoid saying don't 4-bet/fold which you know already.

I call. 330 players out, let me bink a stack or get an early night once I've put half my chips in the middle.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 12:37:53 PM »

dont slowroll the poor fella, 40k is enormous at this stage, just suckout like a pro.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 12:41:11 PM »

Thought this was going to be about the hand last night...
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 01:02:39 PM »

Thought this was going to be about the hand last night...

That was no mistake!!

Spite call ftmfw!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 01:03:35 PM »

I shove, bust his KK and think well played Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 01:05:17 PM »

Yeah its a call for me but knowing you've made a mistake.

40k from here would ensure a pretty deep run thou
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 01:19:55 PM »

after the 4b you have to call
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 01:29:30 PM »

Don't date strippers imo.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 01:35:25 PM »

Don't date strippers imo.



whats wrong with dating strippers?
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 01:56:42 PM »

So general concensus seems to be call.

Does this mean that it's ok to 4 bet this hand if our plan is to snap the shove?

Or should we pass to his 3 bet?

And if we are passing to his 3 bet does that mean that we should just pass pre as we know that by raising in the first place our eventual plan is to get the lot in?
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 02:04:49 PM »

So general concensus seems to be call.

Does this mean that it's ok to 4 bet this hand if our plan is to snap the shove?

Or should we pass to his 3 bet?

And if we are passing to his 3 bet does that mean that we should just pass pre as we know that by raising in the first place our eventual plan is to get the lot in?

Generally we should be passing this hand to the 3-bet at this stage with our stack. We're only calling because we've 4-bet and are now committed maths wise.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 02:06:29 PM »

So general concensus seems to be call.

Does this mean that it's ok to 4 bet this hand if our plan is to snap the shove?

Or should we pass to his 3 bet?

And if we are passing to his 3 bet does that mean that we should just pass pre as we know that by raising in the first place our eventual plan is to get the lot in?

Generally we should be passing this hand to the 3-bet at this stage with our stack. We're only calling because we've 4-bet and are now committed maths wise.

So we're just bluff raising pre?

Does this make all of our late position raises very exploitable?
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 02:17:14 PM »

So general concensus seems to be call.

Does this mean that it's ok to 4 bet this hand if our plan is to snap the shove?

Or should we pass to his 3 bet?

And if we are passing to his 3 bet does that mean that we should just pass pre as we know that by raising in the first place our eventual plan is to get the lot in?

Generally we should be passing this hand to the 3-bet at this stage with our stack. We're only calling because we've 4-bet and are now committed maths wise.

So we're just bluff raising pre?

Does this make all of our late position raises very exploitable?

Dunno what the standard is like in the $20 +1's on stars but assuming players aren't often 3-betting at this stage so it's fair to assume their range has you crushed.
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