Question Time

[Geo the Sarge]

Nick Griffin is cock obv

But I do think the protestors give him exactly what he wants- publicity. Just leave the retard and his twat of a party alone. They'll get what's deserved someday. karma is a bitch

Lol at certain people in this country. You can have free speech and a democracy......... As long as we like what you are saying!

Don't get me wrong, he is a bigoted prick, but let him have his say.

The media and protestors and playing into his hands!

I agree with free speech, which is why he's on QT and the protesters have the right to express their dislike of him.  Those who don't want him on TV aren't trying to deprive him of his freedom of speech. They are arguing that his racist and foul views do not deserve a platform from which to be spouted.  I happen to think him being on will be a good thing, but I've also got concerns.  The protesters who entered the BBC were silly, but there was no violence and they were more ill-advised rather than damaging and dangerous.

Interesting as to who you think may have been advising them Dan. Who would you think puts up all the money for the fancy placards/banners on show? These weren't hastily made black marker or paint jobbies. They looked professionally done and woulda cost a few bob to have done.

How much of this (at the BBC today) do you think was orchestrated by the BNP themselves?

Geo

I'm sure they wouldn't mind the additional exposure, and I think it's a combination of people who were there - the ill-advised and the 'directed'.  

Dan,

Surely you can see that is what my question was, who do you think are "advising and directing?"

Agreed George.

Geo

[WarBwastard]

He gets stick for saying what millions of brits are thinking.... discuss.

The communist labour party get to spout their propoganda using taxpayers money ('climate change advert upsetting kids').

Discuss.

Erm, not sure what your point is.  The Labour party is hardly communist - in fact it's leaning right of centre at the moment.

Also, that advert is excellent - whose propaganda is it?

Actually the current Government has a lot of ex-communists in it including Bob Ainsworth the current Defence secretary.  Not sure how you can argue that their right of centre.

There are people within the party who are definitely left-wing, but the actual government in terms of policies and the way they've ruled the country is definitely not 'left-wing' and certainly not communist.

It's very left wing..a huge Government that encroaches in every aspect of our lives, a welfare state, the complete ruin of education and family life which is the best way to destroy the class system and control a population;  A slow but very noticeable removing of liberty; We're living in the pages of 1984 but without the stat rationed gin and blue boiler suits and people still think this government is right wing. It amazes me when people say that.  What's ring wing about it?

[kinboshi]

Nick Griffin is cock obv

But I do think the protestors give him exactly what he wants- publicity. Just leave the retard and his twat of a party alone. They'll get what's deserved someday. karma is a bitch

Lol at certain people in this country. You can have free speech and a democracy......... As long as we like what you are saying!

Don't get me wrong, he is a bigoted prick, but let him have his say.

The media and protestors and playing into his hands!

I agree with free speech, which is why he's on QT and the protesters have the right to express their dislike of him.  Those who don't want him on TV aren't trying to deprive him of his freedom of speech. They are arguing that his racist and foul views do not deserve a platform from which to be spouted.  I happen to think him being on will be a good thing, but I've also got concerns.  The protesters who entered the BBC were silly, but there was no violence and they were more ill-advised rather than damaging and dangerous.

Interesting as to who you think may have been advising them Dan. Who would you think puts up all the money for the fancy placards/banners on show? These weren't hastily made black marker or paint jobbies. They looked professionally done and woulda cost a few bob to have done.

How much of this (at the BBC today) do you think was orchestrated by the BNP themselves?

Geo

I'm sure they wouldn't mind the additional exposure, and I think it's a combination of people who were there - the ill-advised and the 'directed'. 

Dan,

Surely you can see that is what my question was, who do you think are "advising and directing?"

Agreed George.

Geo

I was agreeing that some of the 'protesters' are possibly directed by the BNP in order to create a scene - don't know if that's the case or not though.  The 'ill-advised' I was talking about are those who don't think the BNP should be given an appearance on QT or any platform to speak (especially on a public broadcasting channel funded by the tax-payer), there were definitely plenty of them there.

[kinboshi]

He gets stick for saying what millions of brits are thinking.... discuss.

The communist labour party get to spout their propoganda using taxpayers money ('climate change advert upsetting kids').

Discuss.

Erm, not sure what your point is.  The Labour party is hardly communist - in fact it's leaning right of centre at the moment.

Also, that advert is excellent - whose propaganda is it?

Actually the current Government has a lot of ex-communists in it including Bob Ainsworth the current Defence secretary.  Not sure how you can argue that their right of centre.

There are people within the party who are definitely left-wing, but the actual government in terms of policies and the way they've ruled the country is definitely not 'left-wing' and certainly not communist.

It's very left wing..a huge Government that encroaches in every aspect of our lives, a welfare state, the complete ruin of education and family life which is the best way to destroy the class system and control a population;  A slow but very noticeable removing of liberty; We're living in the pages of 1984 but without the stat rationed gin and blue boiler suits and people still this government is right wing. It amazes me when people say that.  What's ring wing about it?

Surrending rights to big corporations, an unlawful war for economic reasons, the erosion of the power of the workers, etc.  I'd consider these more right-wing than left.  The Labour party was traditionally further left than the Liberals, but that's no longer the case imo, and the difference between the policies of Labour and Tories is becoming more and more minimal.

[WarBwastard]

He gets stick for saying what millions of brits are thinking.... discuss.

The communist labour party get to spout their propoganda using taxpayers money ('climate change advert upsetting kids').

Discuss.

Erm, not sure what your point is.  The Labour party is hardly communist - in fact it's leaning right of centre at the moment.

Also, that advert is excellent - whose propaganda is it?

Actually the current Government has a lot of ex-communists in it including Bob Ainsworth the current Defence secretary.  Not sure how you can argue that their right of centre.

There are people within the party who are definitely left-wing, but the actual government in terms of policies and the way they've ruled the country is definitely not 'left-wing' and certainly not communist.

It's very left wing..a huge Government that encroaches in every aspect of our lives, a welfare state, the complete ruin of education and family life which is the best way to destroy the class system and control a population;  A slow but very noticeable removing of liberty; We're living in the pages of 1984 but without the stat rationed gin and blue boiler suits and people still this government is right wing. It amazes me when people say that.  What's ring wing about it?

Surrending rights to big corporations, an unlawful war for economic reasons, the erosion of the power of the workers, etc.  I'd consider these more right-wing than left.  The Labour party was traditionally further left than the Liberals, but that's no longer the case imo, and the difference between the policies of Labour and Tories is becoming more and more minimal.

The gap has closed because the Tories have moved left, not the other way round.  The last 12 years have been a slow Fabian movement, like working a fat turd through the bowls.  It's an egalitarian ideology which is steeped in communism.  We'll have to agree to disagree as these discussions bring me out in a rash.  I shouldn't have said anything.  Bad me.

[Geo the Sarge]

Surrending rights to big corporations, an unlawful war for economic reasons, the erosion of the power of the workers, etc.  I'd consider these more right-wing than left.  The Labour party was traditionally further left than the Liberals, but that's no longer the case imo, and the difference between the policies of Labour and Tories is becoming more and more minimal.
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I thought you believed Maggie had already done that?

FWIW I was in the camp that these morons should not be given the platform from which to spout their vile nonsense. However, they have been given a bigger platform than QT by the other parties ignoring most inner cities and allowing the BNP to gain a foothold.

I now hope that QT and other platforms will show some of their followers how shit they really are.

Someone within the main 3 needs to really get a grip within the inner cities and start listening or it's only gonna get worse.

Geo

[Longy]

He gets stick for saying what millions of brits are thinking.... discuss.

The communist labour party get to spout their propoganda using taxpayers money ('climate change advert upsetting kids').

Discuss.

Half of your post on here have been anti labour, which is pretty impressive for a poker forum. The other half were promoting PKR, who presumably donate to the Conservative party.

[bolt pp]

lol smashed jack straw about his old man

[Graham C]

Griffin being owned by Dimbleby, quite amusing from time to time

[bolt pp]

a lot of the young people in the audience sure did get the strangelove reference

[bolt pp]

It seems like he's not even taking it seriously, like he's so wrapped up in loving the infamy of it all he doesnt really give a shit

[Graham C]

yeah it's a bit like that, settling down a bit now.

[josepebhoy]

Is it just me or does Griffin look very very uncomfortable?

[NoflopsHomer]

He gets stick for saying what millions of brits are thinking.... discuss.

The communist labour party get to spout their propoganda using taxpayers money ('climate change advert upsetting kids').

Discuss.

Half of your post on here have been anti labour, which is pretty impressive for a poker forum. The other half were promoting PKR, who presumably donate to the Conservative party.

lol

[josepebhoy]

think the tory woman has come across quite well, certainly better than the rest of the panel.