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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2009, 02:27:46 PM » |
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why did you minraise flop?
really, why did you do this? And what if any info on villain/table is there? Pre is good some % of the time, though as it's an ante game and everyones ats should be higher I like 3 betting alot out of the blinds. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2009, 02:27:58 PM » |
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This way we keep all the hands that we have dominated in the pot post flop.
Thats a bit weak surely - I can see that argument with AJ but I think we have to expect many players to call with AQ/J and drawing hands that will fold to a c-bet. |
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AlexMartin
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 03:36:10 PM » |
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3b pre 100%. As played, i either bet fold or check call. Probably bet small with a plan.
CR flop a shit load bigger
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 04:02:27 PM » |
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Ok those who know me know im a tournament Donk just fancied playing some cash. i re raise small on the flop to get some value. i know i should 3 bet pre but generally have building a pot oop. on the river i was check calling but didn't know what to do when he shoved. my read throughout the hand was a weaker ace. probably aq. obv i call anyway and get stacked by a 3 outer
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 04:33:21 PM » |
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bet/fold wins you money and saves you money here.
but in 6max if you aren't 3betting AKs pre what are you 3betting?
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 04:58:04 PM » |
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I'd 3bet pre for sure - you have ace & king of the same suit
I'd consider leading flop maybe but depends on player
as played if you put him on a lower ace but not a club draw, i would bet/fold to get value out of AJ/AT co if he has a set or AQ you sure will find out. If you think he has a club draw then you could check to induce a bluff. But best line is bet/fold imo
don't understand why you would c/c if you think he has AQ iron, that's bad thinking imo.
i dont think he has AQ but OP thinks he has AQ or AJ so on river its 50/50 if he has 2 pair or 1 pair lower kicker mind you i always lose flips Its far from 50/50 with a queen on board! |
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2009, 12:17:36 AM » |
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I'd 3bet pre for sure - you have ace & king of the same suit
I'd consider leading flop maybe but depends on player
as played if you put him on a lower ace but not a club draw, i would bet/fold to get value out of AJ/AT co if he has a set or AQ you sure will find out. If you think he has a club draw then you could check to induce a bluff. But best line is bet/fold imo
don't understand why you would c/c if you think he has AQ iron, that's bad thinking imo.
i dont think he has AQ but OP thinks he has AQ or AJ so on river its 50/50 if he has 2 pair or 1 pair lower kicker mind you i always lose flips Its far from 50/50 with a queen on board! ok 3 times in 5 you win 2 times in 5 you lose seeing as you have him on aq or aj |
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salfi
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2009, 02:47:40 AM » |
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wow he spazzes out on the river with 2pair and somehow gets value. u have a bluff catcher on the river only and thats all u can beat when he shoves. as u repping extreme strength he has to be a tard to bet two pair jam here but obviously he does and somehow gets value.
while poker hands are played this way i can sit at home safe in the knowl i wont have to work anytime soon in the real world . bet he didnt keep ya money long?
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2009, 09:35:41 AM » |
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I'd 3bet pre for sure - you have ace & king of the same suit
I'd consider leading flop maybe but depends on player
as played if you put him on a lower ace but not a club draw, i would bet/fold to get value out of AJ/AT co if he has a set or AQ you sure will find out. If you think he has a club draw then you could check to induce a bluff. But best line is bet/fold imo
don't understand why you would c/c if you think he has AQ iron, that's bad thinking imo.
i dont think he has AQ but OP thinks he has AQ or AJ so on river its 50/50 if he has 2 pair or 1 pair lower kicker mind you i always lose flips Its far from 50/50 with a queen on board! ok 3 times in 5 you win 2 times in 5 you lose seeing as you have him on aq or aj There are 4 jacks, 3 queens and 2 aces unseen. So the proportion is 8/6. Also you have to consider whether he bets or not with AJ. |
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2009, 02:43:51 PM » |
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yeh didn't think of that coz AJ gets bet less its closer to 50/50
but i tell you what when you value bet the river he never raises AJ so George if you're putting him on AQ or AJ then bet-fold is much superior line. you could even bet less than half the pot.
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2009, 03:22:59 PM » |
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wow he spazzes out on the river with 2pair and somehow gets value. u have a bluff catcher on the river only and thats all u can beat when he shoves. as u repping extreme strength he has to be a tard to bet two pair jam here but obviously he does and somehow gets value.
while poker hands are played this way i can sit at home safe in the knowl i wont have to work anytime soon in the real world . bet he didnt keep ya money long?
i don't think villain's river play is that bad here - you are surely not checking behind the rivered 2 pair |
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2009, 03:23:12 PM » |
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yeah pretty much butchered it
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2009, 11:42:19 PM » |
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wow he spazzes out on the river with 2pair and somehow gets value. u have a bluff catcher on the river only and thats all u can beat when he shoves. as u repping extreme strength he has to be a tard to bet two pair jam here but obviously he does and somehow gets value.
while poker hands are played this way i can sit at home safe in the knowl i wont have to work anytime soon in the real world . bet he didnt keep ya money long?
i don't think villain's river play is that bad here - you are surely not checking behind the rivered 2 pair didnt u bet into hiim on the river and he repops his 2pair lke he has the golden mc nuggets(nuts)? obviously he value bets if u just check to him but uve stoppa bet/value bet and he proceeds with opening the betting when his hand isnt that strong to be doin this here. |
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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2009, 01:41:37 AM » |
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your playing cash like the early stages of a tourney mate, 3bet pre. on river as played i think bet/fold is the line. not having a dig george but, from your reports of the IPO and various HH's when u have a player on one of 2 hands you seem to always be right  if he had AQ c/c if he had AJ bet/call bet/3bet riv  |
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2009, 04:54:58 AM » |
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wow he spazzes out on the river with 2pair and somehow gets value. u have a bluff catcher on the river only and thats all u can beat when he shoves. as u repping extreme strength he has to be a tard to bet two pair jam here but obviously he does and somehow gets value.
while poker hands are played this way i can sit at home safe in the knowl i wont have to work anytime soon in the real world . bet he didnt keep ya money long?
i don't think villain's river play is that bad here - you are surely not checking behind the rivered 2 pair didnt u bet into hiim on the river and he repops his 2pair lke he has the golden mc nuggets(nuts)? obviously he value bets if u just check to him but uve stoppa bet/value bet and he proceeds with opening the betting when his hand isnt that strong to be doin this here. George checked to him on the river so i don't follow what you are on about |
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