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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2009, 01:49:18 PM »

Can't wait for the next MOWO awards.
If a race has been sidelined and mistreated are they right to spend a few decades redressing the balance by having awards and festivals which exclude people not of their race?
Not that 'black' is quite a 'race', but anyway...

Nah, not if the goal is equality. I don't think you can have true equality if you keep score. You'll end up with an 'us and them' mindset. Nothing wrong with celebrating culture, I'm all for that: I quite like the occasional highland games. I only go as a spectator but you don't have to be Scottish if you want to enter the events.

I'm not keen on a 'black only' beauty competition because it smarts of segregation. There would be outrage at a 'white only' beauty competition. I'm sure there is no harm meant in running this event but there must be an undercurrent of different rules for different colours. That's why I won't be supporting it either.


This is a good post imo.

I think the black fighters for racial equality in the USA of yesteryear were not standing up so much for black people as trying to trample segregation, inequality and perceived divisions based purely on colour. Hardly celebrated by then having events for black people only.
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2009, 02:04:34 PM »

so would a white only beauty contest be deemed as racist?
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 02:06:08 PM »

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WTF? The MOBOs are not black only.

Maybe not, but I can't imagine an Music Of White Origin awards can you?

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 02:06:24 PM »

Stu,

How about a hairy greek contest hosted by Tulisa and Dappy from N-Dubz.


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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 02:07:30 PM »

society accepted reverse racism at its best.... for that reason i am out

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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 02:12:19 PM »

Would this thread of gone the sameway if it was a 'women over 6 foot' beauty contest?

Hows it any different if you have a tall/black/fat/indian/hairy greek beauty contest?



Interestin question.

I don't think height is commonly a factor salient to social identity, whereas colour is.

In certain situations you can create pretty strong in-group <> out-group effects with any old crap though:

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/psychology/social/intergroup_discrimination_tajfel.html

There were loads of experiments to work out what differences you really need to have any effect, they called this the 'Minimal Group Paradigm' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_group_paradigm

The groups have to perceive themselves as distinct. If there is competition for goals/resources, the groups try to screw each other

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/psychology/social/sherif_robbers_cave_experiment.html

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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 02:13:17 PM »

so would a white only beauty contest be deemed as racist?

yeah. pretty sure it would be illegal and the organisers could be nicked for it
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2009, 02:23:17 PM »

Stu,

How about a hairy greek contest hosted by Tulisa and Dappy from N-Dubz.


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No great need for Dappy

or a contest

can I just have Tulisa tell me that she's been 'searching all over facebook trying to find me'?

or that she wants to 'put a ring on my finger, have i wondered about being with a singer'
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2009, 02:35:36 PM »

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Maybe not, but I can't imagine an Music Of White Origin awards can you?



its called the country and western awards, held every year in the grand old opry
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 02:48:52 PM »

We've had the debate about events aimed at minorities before and no one's going to change their views, so can't see much point adding my own.

I would say though that if people want a reason to protest against beauty contests there are plenty of other reasons that probably hold more validity.

I'll be voting anyway. Good luck Candice.
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2009, 02:58:46 PM »

Would this thread of gone the sameway if it was a 'women over 6 foot' beauty contest?

Hows it any different if you have a tall/black/fat/indian/hairy greek beauty contest?



you have english/irish/scots/welsh/american/indian/brazilian/south africain infact every country in the world beauty contests

you have mobo awards

i dont see a problem here good luck to the girl dont think i have had pleasure of meeting her

Iron Sir, I believe its her who hasn't had the pleasure...
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2009, 03:17:46 PM »

Fittest black girl ever imo

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2009, 03:27:57 PM »

Can we just post pictures of Tulisa from now on....

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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2009, 03:39:28 PM »



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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2009, 04:58:57 PM »

I don't understand the Tulisa argument, just cause a white girl can win an award for singing a supposed black song or in a black way then its ok to have black music awards.

Its like saying that Michael Jackson can win a MOWO award for singing C&W but not R&B!

PS if the MOBO was called the Urban Music award I would no issue with it.
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