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Topic: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS (Read 17714 times)
GreekStein
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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Reply #90 on:
October 31, 2009, 12:41:07 PM »
Quote from: Karabiner on October 31, 2009, 12:32:08 PM
Are poker tournaments for Greeks only or Norwegians only also "racist" ?
The Norweigan ones, possibly, but not the Greek ones. We don't let others in for their own good as its not fair for us to just take your money that easily.
In seriousness though, we let other nationalities play.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM »
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
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Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
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LOL Barry your quality, what offended her? Was it being called a 'Bird' or 'coloured' or were you just covering all bases to make sure she would be upset?
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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Quote from: Woodsey on November 02, 2009, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
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LOL Barry your quality, what offended her? Was it being called a 'Bird' or 'coloured' or were you just covering all bases to make sure she would be upset?
Lol @ woodsey.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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November 02, 2009, 01:57:24 PM »
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
but is she right according to this,
http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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November 02, 2009, 01:57:46 PM »
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
Nothing racist about the term coloured imo.
My grandad whose parents were of West Indian origin is coloured.
He would get deeply offended if anyone called him black. He says "I'm brown, not black" and prefers the term coloured if a term has to be used at all.
I've used the term coloured since I was a kid and still use it now. If anybody gets offended I just explain why I use the term and why I will always use it regardless of their opinion and they seem to accept it.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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November 02, 2009, 02:00:37 PM »
Quote from: cia260895 on November 02, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
but is she right according to this,
http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
According to that she is wrong though.
Nobody on this planet is actually black as far as I've seen. There are various colours from very pale to very dark but nobody is black and nobody is white.
If anything we are all coloured.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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November 02, 2009, 02:03:08 PM »
i know I aint white as i just put a sheet of A4 paper against me and i'm nowhwere near it
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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Reply #98 on:
November 02, 2009, 02:23:30 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on November 02, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: cia260895 on November 02, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
but is she right according to this,
http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
According to that she is wrong though.
Nobody on this planet is actually black as far as I've seen. There are various colours from very pale to very dark but nobody is black and nobody is white.
If anything we are all coloured.
I'm not sure on the reasons for the word being considered derogatory by some, but I think it goes back to the discrimination of non-whites, and the term coloured is used to single out 'non-whites' which like you've pointed out we're all different shades of whatever and a typical blue-eyed, blonde haired Scandinavian is going be a very different skin shade to a Mediterranean European - but both would be considered 'white'.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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Reply #99 on:
November 02, 2009, 02:32:12 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on November 02, 2009, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on November 02, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: cia260895 on November 02, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
but is she right according to this,
http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
According to that she is wrong though.
Nobody on this planet is actually black as far as I've seen. There are various colours from very pale to very dark but nobody is black and nobody is white.
If anything we are all coloured.
I'm not sure on the reasons for the word being considered derogatory by some, but I think it goes back to the discrimination of non-whites, and the term coloured is used to single out 'non-whites' which like you've pointed out we're all different shades of whatever and a typical blue-eyed, blonde haired Scandinavian is going be a very different skin shade to a Mediterranean European - but both would be considered 'white'.
I would assume it's because in recent history when black people were actually discriminated against unlike now when we're all judged on other attributes (ie a twat is a twat no matter what colour they are) the term coloured was used more often.
In South Africa for instance there were white sections and coloured sections of cafes. There were white and coloured toilets. White and coloured areas on buses. Etc... If the term black had been used then I'm sure that we would all now have to use a different term to avoid upsetting someone.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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Reply #100 on:
November 02, 2009, 02:38:51 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on November 02, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on November 02, 2009, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on November 02, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: cia260895 on November 02, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
but is she right according to this,
http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
According to that she is wrong though.
Nobody on this planet is actually black as far as I've seen. There are various colours from very pale to very dark but nobody is black and nobody is white.
If anything we are all coloured.
I'm not sure on the reasons for the word being considered derogatory by some, but I think it goes back to the discrimination of non-whites, and the term coloured is used to single out 'non-whites' which like you've pointed out we're all different shades of whatever and a typical blue-eyed, blonde haired Scandinavian is going be a very different skin shade to a Mediterranean European - but both would be considered 'white'.
I would assume it's because in recent history when black people were actually discriminated against unlike now when we're all judged on other attributes (ie a twat is a twat no matter what colour they are) the term coloured was used more often.
In South Africa for instance there were white sections and coloured sections of cafes. There were white and coloured toilets. White and coloured areas on buses. Etc... If the term black had been used then I'm sure that we would all now have to use a different term to avoid upsetting someone.
Most probably. Like you said, the word Black doesn't really describe the skin colour, but more people of 'African' origin/appearance. I just think that 'coloured' is a useless term for the reasons mentioned.
Surely the point is that if someone uses a term and it's not meant to be derogatory and it doesn't lead to discrimination then it shouldn't be a problem. Proberly.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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Reply #101 on:
November 02, 2009, 04:59:35 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on November 02, 2009, 02:38:51 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on November 02, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on November 02, 2009, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on November 02, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: cia260895 on November 02, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: vinni on November 02, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
i find all this discusting ,if they had a miss beauty contest for whites only they would be eruptions .
and i have a good reason for saying this,after being accused of being racist for calling this lady a coloured bird.
but is she right according to this,
http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html
According to that she is wrong though.
Nobody on this planet is actually black as far as I've seen. There are various colours from very pale to very dark but nobody is black and nobody is white.
If anything we are all coloured.
I'm not sure on the reasons for the word being considered derogatory by some, but I think it goes back to the discrimination of non-whites, and the term coloured is used to single out 'non-whites' which like you've pointed out we're all different shades of whatever and a typical blue-eyed, blonde haired Scandinavian is going be a very different skin shade to a Mediterranean European - but both would be considered 'white'.
I would assume it's because in recent history when black people were actually discriminated against unlike now when we're all judged on other attributes (ie a twat is a twat no matter what colour they are) the term coloured was used more often.
In South Africa for instance there were white sections and coloured sections of cafes. There were white and coloured toilets. White and coloured areas on buses. Etc... If the term black had been used then I'm sure that we would all now have to use a different term to avoid upsetting someone.
Most probably. Like you said, the word Black doesn't really describe the skin colour, but more people of 'African' origin/appearance. I just think that 'coloured' is a useless term for the reasons mentioned.
Surely the point is that if someone uses a term and it's not meant to be derogatory and it doesn't lead to discrimination then it shouldn't be a problem. Proberly.
Definitely. It's the intent the word that is important.
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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It's funny how all the opinion has been about the morality of a Miss Black UK contest and whether it discriminates against other people. But wait. A beauty contest discriminates against the majority of people, most of whom are ugly and couldn't fulfill the criteria. If the competiton was to find the ugliest black person rather than the most beautiful there would be lots more discontent imo. Hmmm. So it's interesting to note that colour as a qualifying attribute for a competition attracts lots of attention but beauty as a qualiification attracts none. Beauty is still how you look externally and how others perceive you. An event to find the most beautiful looking black person isn't about external equality and I'm not sure I like that. Personally though I do think beauty contests are pretty much all good.
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November 02, 2009, 05:21:35 PM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on November 02, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
It's funny how all the opinion has been about the morality of a Miss Black UK contest and whether it discriminates against other people. But wait. A beauty contest discriminates against the majority of people, most of whom are ugly and couldn't fulfill the criteria. If the competiton was to find the ugliest black person rather than the most beautiful there would be lots more discontent imo. Hmmm. So it's interesting to note that colour as a qualifying attribute for a competition attracts lots of attention but beauty as a qualiification attracts none. Beauty is still how you look externally and how others perceive you. An event to find the most beautiful looking black person isn't about external equality and I'm not sure I like that. Personally though I do think beauty contests are pretty much all good.
Think this was mentioned earlier, but in fewer words
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Re: CANDICE DTD WAITRESS
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November 02, 2009, 05:22:26 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on November 02, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on November 02, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
It's funny how all the opinion has been about the morality of a Miss Black UK contest and whether it discriminates against other people. But wait. A beauty contest discriminates against the majority of people, most of whom are ugly and couldn't fulfill the criteria. If the competiton was to find the ugliest black person rather than the most beautiful there would be lots more discontent imo. Hmmm. So it's interesting to note that colour as a qualifying attribute for a competition attracts lots of attention but beauty as a qualiification attracts none. Beauty is still how you look externally and how others perceive you. An event to find the most beautiful looking black person isn't about external equality and I'm not sure I like that. Personally though I do think beauty contests are pretty much all good.
Think this was mentioned earlier, but in fewer words
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