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« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2009, 09:49:08 PM »

its got nothing to do with what level he plays at its the mindset of letting a player deal whilst he isnt at the table, school boy mistake that anyone who calls theirself a pro should not let happen, why should casino give him anything for his stupid mistake?
maybe good customer service by the casino. the thred was asking if it was standard practice of tough luck.
   dont matter if he shudnt let it happen the fact is it did happen. does this make him any less of a pro because it happened?   he didnt set out to get cheated did he? so the question like i sed is it standard practice of tough and lets not define the definition pro player and what shud and shudnt happen in his day to day running of his business(poker play)
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« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2009, 09:52:05 PM »

Your spelling, punctuation and grammar has given me a headache has anyone got an abstract?
dont read my threds i suggest . this is a poker hang out not a queens english course. 
 think u got the wrong guy and mistook me for someone who gives a fooooooooooook     

Good advice thank you.

I guess the gist is - some mechanic takes a green pro for a ride - live and learn
NOT AT ALL. the gist as in the title oF tHe thrEd is is iT stanDrd PrACtice of toUGH luck FRoM THE caSNinos POiNt of VieW
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« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2009, 09:55:21 PM »

they have refused the dealer dealt game and therefore the casinos rulings and help, the casino can't say heres a meal or your money back as it's nothing to do with them, if the money had been stolen from a game they where running (poker /roulette) or if the lad had been caught before he left the casino but as not no, the casino done what it should of.
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« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2009, 11:24:10 PM »

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they have refused the dealer dealt game and therefore the casinos rulings and help

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« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2009, 12:37:39 AM »

The prick should be banned end of. After you have seen him on video cheating in a private game why take the risk he wont be trying to rip the house games off next week?
+ Everyone saying how could he not cut the deck etc how do you know he didn`t ? Its not hard to stack a deck and cut/replace before dealing, hard knocks teach you that.
Salfi next time he walks in turn the ***** upside down till you get every penny he`s got  lowlife prick.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2009, 03:46:17 AM »

Had a few cheats in some of the club games i run and dont for one minute underestimate the money involved they tend to fall down big flights of stairs
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« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2009, 10:10:44 AM »

so who was it?
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« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2009, 10:12:24 AM »

my mate a pro player . was attending a alea roe game and in the game was a unknown player to teh casino and myself.  the villain donked out of the roe within a few orbits and wanted to play some cash. my mate busts out of the roe donking cause he knows he has to gamble as i have position on him he gos for teh run the game over method and it back fires and he busts.
 anyway he gets to play the villain heads up(tthey decide between em to pay hrly rate so they dont have to pay dealer) and the guy stacks the deck and my mate loses two pair into st8 1st hand and my mate thinks nothing of it and gos to the cashier and reloads.
while he at the cage i sea the dude messing with the deck in a way isnt normal from my roe tourney but think nothing of it. anyway my mate comes to me half hour later and says to me this hand has been bugging me i lost a stack 1st hand and reload and when i get bk i lose another stack aces in pre vs jacks and the guy hit a jack.  my mate says what do i think. well as i saw the guy acting dodgy with the deck i asked the staff to check teh camera and it apears the guy did load the deck.
 the guy left the casino and they sed it was tough that he got screwed and that is on top of them accepting he had been cheated.  is this usual practice for a casino to admit he was cheated and  do nothing about it?

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« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2009, 11:17:47 AM »

don't see wht you don't just go to the police? guy broke the law and the evidence is there. get him what he deserves.
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« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2009, 11:32:14 AM »

don't see wht you don't just go to the police? guy broke the law and the evidence is there. get him what he deserves.

a threat of the police might get the casino to pull there finger out
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« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2009, 11:38:29 AM »

you can fill out a full report with all the details on the police website, then you get a quick phone call then they go round to the casino to get statements / video tape.

even though it's only £200 thats still a robbery and they will still investigate/prosecute the villain, but like linux said having the police walk into the casino they might just decide to refund your loss because they don't want all that hassle.
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« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2009, 11:45:24 AM »

The casino will normally let these things slide. It's not like he stole a sandwich or something.
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« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2009, 12:37:47 PM »

The casino will normally let these things slide. It's not like he stole a sandwich or something.

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I can't get over the fact that u saw this guy acting wierd with the deck but failed to inform your mate that you thought summet dodgy had gone on!

Also lol at your mate knowing betting patterns and suddenly twanged that summet was not right and came to u for advice!!
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« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2009, 01:05:40 PM »

The casino will normally let these things slide. It's not like he stole a sandwich or something.

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I can't get over the fact that u saw this guy acting wierd with the deck but failed to inform your mate that you thought summet dodgy had gone on!

Also lol at your mate knowing betting patterns and suddenly twanged that summet was not right and came to u for advice!!
dont be a clown dan.   il just start punching and shaking down everybody who looks dodgy or might cheat 1 day. i was busy playin my game on another table and we realised  after the hussle and asked the staff to review the tape. he asked me what i though ten mins after it happened cause it was bugging him and i told him he was messing with the deck rather then shuffling it while my mate was at the cash desk. i was in my own game playin and my attention was on my own game it was a quick glance at the guy and i thought nothing of it until my mate told me he had concerns that the hand was played like a stacked deck.  they did he we was right and the guy ran off out thye building when he realised beforre teh staff with the camera could review the evidence. no one wants to get cheated use ya loaf im hardly gunner allow it if im 100percent sure. its not until we had a chat that we put the evidence we had together and felt he had cheated. my mate been the player he is thought st8 away but u cant call everyone a cheat its just bad practice dan.
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« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2009, 01:28:30 PM »

so the guy was out the building by the time alea had proof?

so what you want them to do?

you will likely find the guy is barred

but noting else he can do unless you call the police in
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