alea cheating . its just tough luck to the victim is this standard?

[Girgy85]

this is what happens when you have no common sense

that must be it obviously . cause he one of the few people who actually wins money in a casino he must have no commen sense.  maybe some people just expect a fair game . obviously u lot on here are well rounded masters of scumbag catching and thinking on another level where were jsut thinking about drink women and having a laugh . school boy error obviously .
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So you get beat by a guy you've not played before, whilst you're dealing yourselves. You go get more cash and upon coming back the deck isn't shuffled infront of you or cut but you get dealt aces first hand. lol @ anyone not thinking they're about to get fucked straight away.

 yes cause no one has ever been dealt aces 1st hand or seen a fake shuffle.  im sure no one as ever been cheated before so it must be my friends fault he fell for the old get foooked at the casino trick. sorry the world and the people in it are not as clever as u when it comes to this sort of  thing. maybe one day with your comments on here and teachings we can learn to be just like u (super human) until then im sure people wil be cheated  . mbn been u.

have u ever cheated before salfi?

[GreekStein]

this is what happens when you have no common sense

that must be it obviously . cause he one of the few people who actually wins money in a casino he must have no commen sense.  maybe some people just expect a fair game . obviously u lot on here are well rounded masters of scumbag catching and thinking on another level where were jsut thinking about drink women and having a laugh . school boy error obviously .
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So you get beat by a guy you've not played before, whilst you're dealing yourselves. You go get more cash and upon coming back the deck isn't shuffled infront of you or cut but you get dealt aces first hand. lol @ anyone not thinking they're about to get fucked straight away.

 yes cause no one has ever been dealt aces 1st hand or seen a fake shuffle.  im sure no one as ever been cheated before so it must be my friends fault he fell for the old get foooked at the casino trick. sorry the world and the people in it are not as clever as u when it comes to this sort of  thing. maybe one day with your comments on here and teachings we can learn to be just like u (super human) until then im sure people wil be cheated  . mbn been u.

yeah it is kind of nice having an iota of common sense.

[salfi]

so to clarify. in op you ask if it's standard practice for a casino to do nothing. then it turns out they've said they'll bar him. so what was the point of the thread?

just seams a shitty situation that is all. 
and also stands as a warning that people shud be aware also.
 end of day wats the point of any thred to discuss the topic that someone has written about.   

at the end of the day i wouldnt allow some random i was playing heads up to just deal the cards without me being present or cutting them! I certainly wouldnt go to the cash desk after being stacked first hand and come back and let the guy deal again...AGAIN without me cutting them!

so really TOUGH LUCK isnt it!! Nothing casino really can do about it as they deceide to pay an hourly fee in order to save on getting bummed on rake! Shame ur mate got bummed by this character!

u wasnt there dont make out like u know what happened. the guy it happened to would of been watching the guy. not all cheats are obvious as ude think they would be. funnilly enough there isnt a sign on there hed they dont have tattoo on there head or tell u there gunner foook u over.  if your so great at gettin all the information when u sit down at a card table why do u not win anywere near what this guys hourly rate is ?    end of the day he didnt aim to get foooked over did he? . yes he learnt his lesson but dont make out like u too smart to get foooked it could happen to anyone.  u know who it happened to and u know he isnt no mug so dont insult his intelligence please.

does he crush $3 sngs like you do salfi?

u have a go at me all u want. end of day i play the 60s and crush them i play the 27s crush them .winning mtt player live. winning player cash player upto 5/10 and yes i play lots of i crush them 30tabling for a stedy 50dollar an hr. i choose to take the least swingiest path in poker dont see why this has any relavance . u can discuss my player profile all u want but while i have an easy life and make an honest living at the game an understand teh game at many levels.  people like u can say what they want and it wil mean fook all cause u aint the guy putting my kid in trainers my food on teh table or sending me to vegas . so u enjoy been a smug git all u want but like i sed i give my time for free and cause your so smart and play with ivey obviously u have nothing to learn but for the rest of the people who wanta get better its people like me who wil prob be willing to help as i have many areas of skills in the poker world to call upon. please dont comment on my posts as i dont want to comunicate with u anymore thu here as negative stuff is a waste of my time.    

[GreekStein]

so to clarify. in op you ask if it's standard practice for a casino to do nothing. then it turns out they've said they'll bar him. so what was the point of the thread?

just seams a shitty situation that is all.  
and also stands as a warning that people shud be aware also.
 end of day wats the point of any thred to discuss the topic that someone has written about.    

at the end of the day i wouldnt allow some random i was playing heads up to just deal the cards without me being present or cutting them! I certainly wouldnt go to the cash desk after being stacked first hand and come back and let the guy deal again...AGAIN without me cutting them!

so really TOUGH LUCK isnt it!! Nothing casino really can do about it as they deceide to pay an hourly fee in order to save on getting bummed on rake! Shame ur mate got bummed by this character!

u wasnt there dont make out like u know what happened. the guy it happened to would of been watching the guy. not all cheats are obvious as ude think they would be. funnilly enough there isnt a sign on there hed they dont have tattoo on there head or tell u there gunner foook u over.  if your so great at gettin all the information when u sit down at a card table why do u not win anywere near what this guys hourly rate is ?    end of the day he didnt aim to get foooked over did he? . yes he learnt his lesson but dont make out like u too smart to get foooked it could happen to anyone.  u know who it happened to and u know he isnt no mug so dont insult his intelligence please.

does he crush $3 sngs like you do salfi?

u have a go at me all u want. end of day i play the 60s and crush them i play the 27s crush them .winning mtt player live. winning player cash player upto 5/10 and yes i play lots of i crush them 30tabling for a stedy 50dollar an hr. i choose to take the least swingiest path in poker dont see why this has any relavance . u can discuss my player profile all u want but while i have an easy life and make an honest living at the game an understand teh game at many levels.  people like u can say what they want and it wil mean fook all cause u aint the guy putting my kid in trainers my food on teh table or sending me to vegas . so u enjoy been a smug git all u want but like i sed i give my time for free and cause your so smart and play with ivey obviously u have nothing to learn but for the rest of the people who wanta get better its people like me who wil prob be willing to help as i have many areas of skills in the poker world to call upon. please dont comment on my posts as i dont want to comunicate with u anymore thu here as negative stuff is a waste of my time.    

I'll comment on your posts as often as I like.

[Girgy85]

so to clarify. in op you ask if it's standard practice for a casino to do nothing. then it turns out they've said they'll bar him. so what was the point of the thread?

just seams a shitty situation that is all. 
and also stands as a warning that people shud be aware also.
 end of day wats the point of any thred to discuss the topic that someone has written about.   

at the end of the day i wouldnt allow some random i was playing heads up to just deal the cards without me being present or cutting them! I certainly wouldnt go to the cash desk after being stacked first hand and come back and let the guy deal again...AGAIN without me cutting them!

so really TOUGH LUCK isnt it!! Nothing casino really can do about it as they deceide to pay an hourly fee in order to save on getting bummed on rake! Shame ur mate got bummed by this character!

u wasnt there dont make out like u know what happened. the guy it happened to would of been watching the guy. not all cheats are obvious as ude think they would be. funnilly enough there isnt a sign on there hed they dont have tattoo on there head or tell u there gunner foook u over.  if your so great at gettin all the information when u sit down at a card table why do u not win anywere near what this guys hourly rate is ?    end of the day he didnt aim to get foooked over did he? . yes he learnt his lesson but dont make out like u too smart to get foooked it could happen to anyone.  u know who it happened to and u know he isnt no mug so dont insult his intelligence please.

does he crush $3 sngs like you do salfi?

u have a go at me all u want. end of day i play the 60s and crush them i play the 27s crush them .winning mtt player live. winning player cash player upto 5/10 and yes i play lots of i crush them 30tabling for a stedy 50dollar an hr. i choose to take the least swingiest path in poker dont see why this has any relavance . u can discuss my player profile all u want but while i have an easy life and make an honest living at the game an understand teh game at many levels.  people like u can say what they want and it wil mean fook all cause u aint the guy putting my kid in trainers my food on teh table or sending me to vegas . so u enjoy been a smug git all u want but like i sed i give my time for free and cause your so smart and play with ivey obviously u have nothing to learn but for the rest of the people who wanta get better its people like me who wil prob be willing to help as i have many areas of skills in the poker world to call upon. please dont comment on my posts as i dont want to comunicate with u anymore thu here as negative stuff is a waste of my time.    

Salfi i admire you man! Your a good player! You provide for your family! You know the game and your a winning player!

[salfi]

whatever

[George2Loose]

Salfi even u must admit your mate was a bit thick to get stung in the way he did. OK I admit, some cheats are very clever. But this wasn't exatly a master criminal!

[GreekStein]

He made this thread about what he can do about the incident and then starts rabbling on about the guy who got stung is a winning player when he doesn't like something that is said. You asked for opinions, you got em.

Now if you can't see that your winning friend was incredibly naive here then you need your head checked.

[Girgy85]

we have provided the opinions and salfi doesnt like em cos we havnt said......orrrrr poor "insert friends name" lets get casino to get him his pennys back cos he got cheated!

[salfi]

Salfi even u must admit your mate was a bit thick to get stung in the way he did. OK I admit, some cheats are very clever. But this wasn't exatly a master criminal!

u wasnt there so how do u know how exactly it played out?. i dont know how good the cheat is as it was a team effort detecting that he had loaded the deck. i had seen him looking at the cards and not thought about telling my mate that the guy might not be going to shuffle the cards properly. my mate would of watched the guy cut and deal but obviously he must of been half decent at cheating as he had the confidence and the skills to pull it off. was the betting patterns that flagged it up as they say if its to good to be true then(aces 1st hand) it normally is but u dont go to casino to be suspicious. u expect weak poker and people tryin to steel an edge thru banter. nothing as bad as fake shuffling pretend double cutting . we learn to play cards and detecting cheats is somet we shudnt have to do when were on a casino property in my eyes as i feel the casino shud be responsible(not sayin thats how it is but thats what i feel)  making my mate out to be a tool serves no purpose. i really dont understand why u wanta try offend me or get my back up by suggesting that this could only happen to a simpleton?  happend to someone who has been around cards for years has played gukpt wsop dtd events and wil be known to lots of u on the curcuit. there isnt many who would think that the guy is an idiot for this happening to them . liek i sed it could happen to anyone and prob has . i bet most people dont even know its happened to them to be honest.

[George2Loose]

LOL.

I nip to cash desk. Get money. Come back. WOW I have ACES!!! No cut, no shuffle. What are the chances?

Seriously dude- your mate is thick

[GreekStein]

LOL.

I nip to cash desk. Get money. Come back. WOW I have ACES!!! No cut, no shuffle. What are the chances?

Seriously dude- your mate is thick

thankyou!

[Blatch]

Salfi - I havent posted on here yet and quite honestly cant be bothered to read it all cos most of the posts on here are written with appauling english and punctuality.

Can you correct if im wrong on a summary please?

1) Your mate who's awesome donks out a comp because you have position on him
2) He decides to play cash with someone heads up that he doesnt know
3) He loses the lot
4) He reloads
5) You see something not quite right with the guy and the cards
6) He has aces first hand back and loses the lot
7) He thinks something is dodgy because of the betting patterns

Is that a fair summary or should I read the whole lot?

[TightEnd]

I have deleted the thread from here on, just in case those who posted on it are confused about that, due to completely unacceptable flaming towards the OP.

[Linux]

I have deleted the thread from here on, just in case those who posted on it are confused about that, due to completely unacceptable flaming towards the OP.

norrrrr spoil sport