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« on: November 01, 2009, 09:35:38 PM »

Just two hands want some opinions on.

Down to two tables of 6 with 8 handed ft. Have been fairly active and winning alot of pots without showdown. Im playing around 75k and BB has me covered.

He is the strongest player at the table and is capable of bluffing/making moves only person im wary of when in pots. Have checked back flopped top 2 against him earlier and called turn and river bets to win a big pot.

Blinds are 600/1200 i make it 3k to go utg with  , he flats in the BB.

Flop comes  we both check

Turn is a  two spades he checks I bet 4500, he makes it 12500.

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2nd Hand

At FT 7 left with top 3 payed. playing 120k, 3rd in chips at 3k/6k make it 16k to go on the cutoff with  get 3bet to 40k by button who is chipleader. He aint 3bet at FT so far but opened a ton when folded.

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 09:46:31 PM »

1) meh. Fold.

2) read dependant. Some live players have such tight 3bet ranges that you're in big trouble. Against A good player I prob ship in. Against a tight live nit prob fold.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 10:01:34 PM »

1) meh. Fold.

2) read dependant. Some live players have such tight 3bet ranges that you're in big trouble. Against A good player I prob ship in. Against a tight live nit prob fold.

Hand 1 call.

Hand 2 - read dependant of oppo
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 10:26:14 PM »

fold 1

prob ship hand 2 if not an old biddy
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 10:26:51 PM »

Hand ones the more interesting one, the second hand is far too read dependant and ship or fold, cant really fault either.

The first hand you're in position and there are a few draws out there, flat call and re-assess on the river. I don't understand what hands c/c flop then c/r the turn apart from  Two Clubs two hearts? I also really think you need to be continuation betting that flop 90% of the time.

Lets also consider this is a very nice board for him to make a move on and you state he is capable of making moves
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 10:49:27 PM »

I wouldn't be betting to fold in hand 1. You're taking a weak stab on a deuce turn and it's very easy for villain to raise this bet. Your image, the chip dynamic and the board make this a good time to pressure you. I also can't imagine he checks a 10 twice just to 3x your bet and scoop the pot. I think the 6's are good. Hand 2 I have no idea.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 11:37:04 PM »

I wouldn't be betting to fold in hand 1. You're taking a weak stab on a deuce turn and it's very easy for villain to raise this bet. Your image, the chip dynamic and the board make this a good time to pressure you. I also can't imagine he checks a 10 twice just to 3x your bet and scoop the pot. I think the 6's are good. Hand 2 I have no idea.

Mantis wtf we agreed on one?!
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 09:28:58 AM »

I wouldn't be betting to fold in hand 1. You're taking a weak stab on a deuce turn and it's very easy for villain to raise this bet. Your image, the chip dynamic and the board make this a good time to pressure you. I also can't imagine he checks a 10 twice just to 3x your bet and scoop the pot. I think the 6's are good. Hand 2 I have no idea.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 11:42:01 AM »

I wouldn't be betting to fold in hand 1. You're taking a weak stab on a deuce turn and it's very easy for villain to raise this bet. Your image, the chip dynamic and the board make this a good time to pressure you. I also can't imagine he checks a 10 twice just to 3x your bet and scoop the pot. I think the 6's are good. Hand 2 I have no idea.

Could you please expand on this Mantis. I think 3 or 4 paragraphs of why you have no idea should suffice.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 11:32:56 PM »

First hand was most interesting I played all night, i felt as though he was full of shit and as you guys said would never play a 10 like that. I made it 29k to go on the turn. Is this just spew?

He flatted... river was a  ...happy days, he jammed I snapped with boat... he showed for busted straight draw. He gave me a it of slack etc for the hand. Think his turn call is utter spew tbh?

Hand 2 felt as though 99 was two strong, also might have some fold equity against a10/aj/kq etc... he had ak and i lost flip.

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 08:20:18 PM »

Hand 1 he's polarised his range. he's either making a strange, strong play with air or he's got McNutts.

Do you have to raise? Well you have to protect yr hand !

The more dangerous route is flatting the raise then flatting the river, you win more that way if he is going to fire again.

WP good read. Perhaps there was something about his body language that told you he was weak?
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