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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 11:07:18 AM » |
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Your reraise size is far too small. Make it like £25 pre.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 11:08:38 AM » |
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Yes. Although:
- raise more pre ~£30
- bet more on the flop ~£35ish seems about right here
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 11:13:21 AM » |
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that R/r is pretty poor, make it at least £25
as played i don't B/f KK on a drawy board with half my stack in.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 11:14:29 AM » |
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Your reraise size is far too small. Make it like £25 pre.
Yep this sounds right... Probably not folding on the flop either... He has a pair and a draw or a flush draw so I'm calling... |
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 01:32:34 PM » |
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So apart from everything i played it ok. I folded, it was all i'd got in front of me and i did'nt fancy an early bath plus i think he'd got me beat.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 01:41:37 PM » |
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is losing £100 a huge part of your bankroll?
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 02:42:15 PM » |
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No but like i said it would have meant home time. Why can you lend me something?
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 02:54:33 PM » |
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No but like i said it would have meant home time. Why can you lend me something?
maybe just half stack at £50 so you can get hands like this in and have a top up if you don't want to go home? just a suggestion you are not necessarily beat. This is a drawy board so as well as TJ and sets, villain is unlikely to fold AQ, KQ, QT, QJ and combos/flush draws either - just explaining why i don't put 40% of stack in to fold an overpair on a drawy board. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 05:03:50 PM » |
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The replies you get on here Biddy are going to be advice to make the most +ev play. Stuff like not wanting to go home early, really isn't a good excuse for making bad folds. If you playing poker to spend time at the table enjoying self fair enough, but passing kk pre would achieve that!
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 05:10:12 PM » |
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Yeah good suggestion i wish i had. Out of next 3 hands got dealt Pocket Q's twice lost both of them, TAXI.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 05:15:55 PM » |
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Why do people want to raise so much pre? Are we hoping to make everyone fold or something?
We've got a beautiful pair of kings and we're only sat 100bbs deep so I prefer to keep oppos interested.
If we go £25 or even £30 then we are telling oppo's that they are set mining. We aren't giving them the odds to do this so if they are any good we've just driven them out of the pot.
£17 seems good to me. Possibly a little bit more but only £20 max. Get an extra £10 out of each one and hope one of them catches a bit of the flop and pays you off.
Don't pass though. Ever. Especially not with this action. Shover can easily have AQ here or a flush draw + gut shot so you are often ahead.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 05:20:25 PM » |
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Why do people want to raise so much pre? Are we hoping to make everyone fold or something?
We've got a beautiful pair of kings and we're only sat 100bbs deep so I prefer to keep oppos interested.
If we go £25 or even £30 then we are telling oppo's that they are set mining. We aren't giving them the odds to do this so if they are any good we've just driven them out of the pot.
£17 seems good to me. Possibly a little bit more but only £20 max. Get an extra £10 out of each one and hope one of them catches a bit of the flop and pays you off.
Don't pass though. Ever. Especially not with this action. Shover can easily have AQ here or a flush draw + gut shot so you are often ahead.
Raising more probably still gets us a caller with the random trash that live cash players love to play. And once the flop comes down the bigger pot makes it easier to get the money in the middlle. Are you seriously suggesting in that post that we should be giving people set mining odds against us and then never fold the flop? |
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2009, 05:25:45 PM » |
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We are raising more pre as in you average live cash game, people hate folding preflop more than jews hate Hitler. Therefore we are raising for value to get more money in the pot when we have the nuts.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 05:30:21 PM » |
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We are raising more pre as in you average live cash game, people hate folding preflop more than jews hate Hitler. Therefore we are raising for value to get more money in the pot when we have the nuts.
If we're in that kind of game then yes of course we raise more. Stacks suggested we weren't very deep which indicates it's not that kind of game. If we know we're going to get callers then let's make it even more. |
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