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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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Quote from: h on November 23, 2009, 03:33:26 PM
I am not sure how relevant this is :
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if there is a overlay who makes up differance ?
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Quote from: lazaroonie on November 23, 2009, 03:31:09 PM
i am just struggling to see the justification of a penalty for winning players, because it doesnt cost the skin any extra since their winnings come from losing players.
The issue is one of competition within the network
One might assume that IPoker actually owns two large skins and thus it wants to get as much business onto those skins as possible, and prevent players leaving those skins and playing on smaller skins
In essence IPoker is moving away from a skins model
No matter that we do not spend a penny on marketing, and pay rakeback less than many on the network, we are caught in the cross fire of those rooms who do and are seen as unfairly competing with Ipoker's favoured/owned skins (through which it makes a fortune)
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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November 23, 2009, 03:49:09 PM »
In what order are the biggest cardrooms on Ipoker?
BlueSq top?
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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Quote from: TheChipPrince on November 23, 2009, 03:49:09 PM
In what order are the biggest cardrooms on Ipoker?
BlueSq top?
Prob VC no?
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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Titan, I think.
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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November 23, 2009, 04:22:22 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on November 23, 2009, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: lazaroonie on November 23, 2009, 03:31:09 PM
i am just struggling to see the justification of a penalty for winning players, because it doesnt cost the skin any extra since their winnings come from losing players.
The issue is one of competition within the network
One might assume that IPoker actually owns two large skins and thus it wants to get as much business onto those skins as possible, and prevent players leaving those skins and playing on smaller skins
In essence IPoker is moving away from a skins model
No matter that we do not spend a penny on marketing, and pay rakeback less than many on the network, we are caught in the cross fire of those rooms who do and are seen as unfairly competing with Ipoker's favoured/owned skins (through which it makes a fortune)
i am really struggling to get my head around this. the whole things reeks of 'anti-trust' and anti-competition.
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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Quote from: lazaroonie on November 23, 2009, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on November 23, 2009, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: lazaroonie on November 23, 2009, 03:31:09 PM
i am just struggling to see the justification of a penalty for winning players, because it doesnt cost the skin any extra since their winnings come from losing players.
The issue is one of competition within the network
One might assume that IPoker actually owns two large skins and thus it wants to get as much business onto those skins as possible, and prevent players leaving those skins and playing on smaller skins
In essence IPoker is moving away from a skins model
No matter that we do not spend a penny on marketing, and pay rakeback less than many on the network, we are caught in the cross fire of those rooms who do and are seen as unfairly competing with Ipoker's favoured/owned skins (through which it makes a fortune)
i am really struggling to get my head around this. the whole things reeks of 'anti-trust' and anti-competition.
you should see the letter they were sent its quite a read :O
so many numbers n algorithm's
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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November 23, 2009, 04:27:26 PM »
I'd love to test the legals, but no resources to do so after the year we've just had
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if they are kicking you off the network why not just refuse to pay the fines?
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Quote from: Ironside on November 23, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
if they are kicking you off the network why not just refuse to pay the fines?
Will be testing the legals that way!
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November 23, 2009, 05:12:29 PM »
Quote from: hector62 on November 23, 2009, 02:11:34 PM
I wonder if Mr Channing and the other owners of Blackbelt Poker are on a similar deal with i-poker. One of their unique selling point was to offer coaching and tutorials rather than rakeback.The upshot being that the more players they tutor to become winning players the bigger the fine they will get from i-poker!
Shame BlondePoker could not go down same route as Blackbelt & have white skin from BoylePoker , maybe worth you guys looking into this
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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November 23, 2009, 06:00:24 PM »
Not sure if this has been posted above...
If flushy really wanted his money out in one go couldnt he just 'lose it all' to one of his mates who is on another skin and just get it in a bulk sum that way?
Also if someone won big in one of the ECOOP off blonde then there might be no chance to cash out?
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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November 23, 2009, 06:17:04 PM »
Quote from: FlopIt on November 23, 2009, 06:00:24 PM
Not sure if this has been posted above...
If flushy really wanted his money out in one go couldnt he just 'lose it all' to one of his mates who is on another skin and just get it in a bulk sum that way?
Also if someone won big in one of the ECOOP off blonde then there might be no chance to cash out?
I wondered this. Why not get all your players to set up an affiliate deal with another iPoker skin, ideally one on a CPA basis, then get them all to play HU with their rolls against these new accounts, lose, get the affiliate payment and withdraw all the wonga from another skin.
Nice and simple with no potential repercussions at all
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Re: IMPORTANT - Changes at the blonde Cardroom.
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November 23, 2009, 06:42:12 PM »
Quote from: FlopIt on November 23, 2009, 06:00:24 PM
Not sure if this has been posted above...
If flushy really wanted his money out in one go
couldnt he just 'lose it all' to one of his mates who is on another skin and just get it in a bulk sum that way?
Also if someone won big in one of the ECOOP off blonde then there might be no chance to cash out?
I'm confused by that. What money? (serious question). I'm not aware he has large sums deposited on blonde Cardroom, in fact I'm sure he has not.
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