Sunday Million - Quite Early

[pleno1]

PokerStars Game #36340277429: Tournament #234020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (150/300) - 2009/12/06 17:39:12 ET
Table '234020010 722' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: cbacker48 (15800 in chips)
Seat 2: Zenni11 (12656 in chips)
Seat 3: cbax9888 (3400 in chips)
Seat 4: bagz153 (17265 in chips)
Seat 5: Bouwman15 (10422 in chips)
Seat 6: sunseeker (17431 in chips)
Seat 7: Thor1507 (22502 in chips)
Seat 8: iHEART(Vxk!) (8875 in chips)
Seat 9: J-Beux (10450 in chips)
cbax9888: posts small blind 150
bagz153: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bagz153 [Ah ]
Bouwman15: folds
sunseeker: folds
Thor1507: folds
iHEART(Vxk!): folds
J-Beux: folds
cbacker48: folds
Zenni11: raises 300 to 600
cbax9888: folds
bagz153: calls 300    thoughts?
*** FLOP *** [ ]
bagz153: checks
Zenni11: bets 650
bagz153: raises 1250 to 1900 thoughts?
Zenni11: calls 1250
*** TURN *** [ ] []
bagz153: checks thoughts
Zenni11: bets 2750
bagz153: raises 12015 to 14765 and is all-in thoughts?

I know the hand seems pretty weird, basic history. Guy is one tabling the sunday mill, he has had 3 chances to open button since i came to table and has decided not to. The kinda line I'm trying to rep is:

I'm a fish who doesnt wanna fold his bb as the button "never has anything obv." On the flop, std c/r because he doesnt have many kings in his range then I have gave up by my turn check as he "must have a king", I dont know what I'm trying to rep on the turn with my c/r but I guess AK is at the bottom of my range here with two c/r. I think it's pretty close on the turn, I'm getting a good price on a call and could perhaps call and reavaluate the river?

Thoughts please?

[poonjoe]

OMG this hand has everything - the minraise preflop and.... the DOUBLE CHECK/RAISE. Its a line we see all too rarely, but basically you are representing a set here. You have turned your AK into a bluff.

Seems a bit confused tbh - You say you want to represent air then you lump in this big check/raise on the turn, which might make him want to fold AA, but it doesn't really matter because too many chips are in the middle by this stage. You look so strong that no worse hands will call you, KJ or a set is doubling through you, AA will often double through you, and everything else is folding.

[Longy]

OMG this hand has everything - the minraise preflop and.... the DOUBLE CHECK/RAISE. Its a line we see all too rarely, but basically you are representing a set here. You have turned your AK into a bluff.

Seems a bit confused tbh - You say you want to represent air then you lump in this big check/raise on the turn, which might make him want to fold AA, but it doesn't really matter because too many chips are in the middle by this stage. You look so strong that the only worse hand you get value from is going to be AA, while KJ or a set is doubling through you, and everything else is folding.

AA is beating ak here.

[outragous76]

OMG this hand has everything - the minraise preflop and.... the DOUBLE CHECK/RAISE. Its a line we see all too rarely, but basically you are representing a set here. You have turned your AK into a bluff.

Seems a bit confused tbh - You say you want to represent air then you lump in this big check/raise on the turn, which might make him want to fold AA, but it doesn't really matter because too many chips are in the middle by this stage. You look so strong that the only worse hand you get value from is going to be AA, while KJ or a set is doubling through you, and everything else is folding.

this is what i would have said but put far more succinctly

you played it weird

[AlexMartin]

3b pre, bet flop, shove turn. If i was in nit mode just call, call, call. Maybe lead the turn to induce some spew but not likely.

[poonjoe]

OMG this hand has everything - the minraise preflop and.... the DOUBLE CHECK/RAISE. Its a line we see all too rarely, but basically you are representing a set here. You have turned your AK into a bluff.

Seems a bit confused tbh - You say you want to represent air then you lump in this big check/raise on the turn, which might make him want to fold AA, but it doesn't really matter because too many chips are in the middle by this stage. You look so strong that the only worse hand you get value from is going to be AA, while KJ or a set is doubling through you, and everything else is folding.

AA is beating ak here.

Oops yeh brain fart will amend post

[action man]

with oppo's stack im looking to get it in pre, 3betting to like 2400 pre.

[MANTIS01]

That complicated story about you are the fish who won't fold and "never has anything obv" and all that. I would forget that mumbo jumbo. I think you should raise because you have an A and a K as your 2 hole cards. If you do risk trapping your oppo with the pre-flop call how can you c/r when you actually hit gin? You don't think he's got many kings in his range so you c/r him. I don't get what sort of trap that is.

[pleno1]

That complicated story about you are the fish who won't fold and "never has anything obv" and all that. I would forget that mumbo jumbo. I think you should raise because you have an A and a K as your 2 hole cards. If you do risk trapping your oppo with the pre-flop call how can you c/r when you actually hit gin? You don't think he's got many kings in his range so you c/r him. I don't get what sort of trap that is.

that's the line i wanted to take, that eh thought i was just c/r because not many k in his range, so he would 3bet wiht kq, it was a skewed thought process granted and i agree its a weird line. wouldnt of posted it if id of won i didnt play it wrong imo.

[The Camel]

With him only having 20bb's I think I rr preflop.

If you were a bit deeper I don't mind your flop play, think I lead out on the turn though,

[pleno1]

With him only having 20bb's I think I rr preflop.

If you were a bit deeper I don't mind your flop play, think I lead out on the turn though,

he has 40+ bbs.

[The Camel]

With him only having 20bb's I think I rr preflop.

If you were a bit deeper I don't mind your flop play, think I lead out on the turn though,

he has 40+ bbs.

I'm stupid, sorry

[pleno1]

With him only having 20bb's I think I rr preflop.

If you were a bit deeper I don't mind your flop play, think I lead out on the turn though,

he has 40+ bbs.

I'm stupid, sorry

still a 3b pre with 40 or are we about deep enough to call. we have been on table for 21 hands and villain has 0%vpip

[Zero]

3b pre to like 2.2/2.3kish, lead out on flop for like 2.6kish, shove turn