GORDON BROWN'S CHINESE TAKEAWAY

[Claw75]

Bipolar disorder is when someone gets excessively happy and excessively sad - that's all.

not quite that simple

Do you have an alternative definition?

Try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

[MANTIS01]

Bipolar disorder is when someone gets excessively happy and excessively sad - that's all.

"Judge, my client is very happy right now, surely this should excuse him from the death penalty?"

If I got caught with 4k of heroin in my bag and sentenced to death I reckon I'd get excessively sad as well. Shit! I might have bipolar??

[Swordpoker]

Bipolar disorder is when someone gets excessively happy and excessively sad - that's all.

not quite that simple

Do you have an alternative definition?

Try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

From your link:

"is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a category of mood disorders defined by the presence of one or more episodes of abnormally elevated mood clinically referred to as mania or, if milder, hypomania."

The words are fancier, I'll give you that

[Claw75]

OK. Now if you've read the rest of it you'll realise that a period of mania is far from just being 'excessively happy'.  It's a lot more likely the guy was in a manic period when he did what he did.

I hope the rest of the people that read your blithe definition followed by the 'that's all' take the time to look at the link as well and realise there's a lot more to this all too common disorder that can really fuck up people's lives.

[thediceman]

Yeah its really that simple eh....China has one of the worlds worst human rights records- they executed over 1700 people last year for 68 different crimes-a lot less severe than smuggling drugs!!!!

If you think thats the way we should live then hows the planet meant to progress....all governments keep out of each others business eh???

Let Saudi Arabia stone women to death for adultery(many of which cases are on a whim with no concrete evidence)? Let china/America continue to pollute the planet the way they do?

Surely globalisation has had a positive effect in that these cases can be highlighted so that stuff like this can be erradicated. Not talking about this case in specific, and I'm all for following Laws and respecting other countries beliefs but it cant just be "put up and shut up"- if there is something I think is clearly wrong(like the stoning mentioned earlier) I think we have the right to shout loud enough so these countries hear of our disgust....and perhaps listen to their own civilians.

 

[StuartHopkin]

You do realise mental disorders arent real they're just in your head?

[paulhouk03]

Thought this thread would be about his chinese order.

I bet he orders


ribs in peking sauce
special fried rice
chips
prawn crackers
maybe another dish like chicken in black bean  coz he is a fat fuck!

[StuartHopkin]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

[bolt pp]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

no, the highs and lows of coke come and go pretty quick and you are in your control of when and how they happen

[Claw75]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

I don't know - I've never done coke. To an extent I guess the highs brought on by taking coke and the comedown are similar in a way to the highs and lows experienced by bi polar people, but over a shorter time frame. It's probably a reason why a lot of bipolar people turn to drugs like coke too - to recreate the euphoria of a manic phase when they're feeling depressed.

[bolt pp]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

I don't know - I've never done coke. To an extent I guess the highs brought on by taking coke and the comedown are similar in a way to the highs and lows experienced by bi polar people, but over a shorter time frame. It's probably a reason why a lot of bipolar people turn to drugs like coke too - to recreate the euphoria of a manic phase when they're feeling depressed.

i understand what you're saying claire but i hate it when everytime people say theres a reason why people take recreationl drugs like coke, cant people just take it because it makes you feel wicked and you want to have a good time without there being any underlying reasons?

[StuartHopkin]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

no, the highs and lows of coke come and go pretty quick and you are in your control of when and how they happen

Im talking about proper coke users not recreational ones.

[Claw75]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

I don't know - I've never done coke. To an extent I guess the highs brought on by taking coke and the comedown are similar in a way to the highs and lows experienced by bi polar people, but over a shorter time frame. It's probably a reason why a lot of bipolar people turn to drugs like coke too - to recreate the euphoria of a manic phase when they're feeling depressed.

i understand what you're saying claire but i hate it when everytime people say theres a reason why people take recreationl drugs like coke, cant people just take it because it makes you feel wicked and you want to have a good time without there being any underlying reasons?

yeah I'm not saying that that's not the case, and I know loads of people in that bracket. I'm talking specifically in the cases of people with bi polar disorder, among whom taking coke is pretty common.

[bolt pp]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

no, the highs and lows of coke come and go pretty quick and you are in your control of when and how they happen

Im talking about proper coke users not recreational ones.

are there really that many "proper" cocaine users?

imo there are proper herion and crack users but coke is recreational, i could do coke every night for a month and every other night for 2-3 months then just stop for the next 6 months, go smoke crack for 2 months and see if you could stop.

[StuartHopkin]

She was very successful at life, popstar, reality show winner, mum of the year, very rich, and I never heard one thing about her bipolar condition.

and why would you have? If she was diagnosed at the time then it's probably not something she'd want to shout about - there's a hell of a lot of stigma still around about the condition (indeed on this thread someone's said the guy was 'clearly retarded'.

It's also a difficult condition to diagnose, as the diagnosing professionals will often want to see the sufferer in all of their states (i.e. manic, depressed, stable) before making a diagnosis. With some forms of bi polar disorder the sufferer can remain in one state for a period of several years, so it's not an easy one. Of course it's often misdiagnosed (and treated) as acute depression too, as it's during depressive periods that the suffer will be seeking medical help, but during the manic phases that most of the 'damage' (i.e. problems with drugs, gambing, overspending) will be done.

ZOMG!!
She was just a typical coke fiend nothing else, the bi-polar bull was just to try and save her shite career!

I think a lot of people share that opinion, and is what Mantis was getting at earlier. Doctors don't go dishing out a diagnosis and medication to save people's shite careers.

Okay okay, but both the wikipedia and swordpokers definition of bi-polar are exactly the same as the side effects of doing a lot of coke would you not say?

no, the highs and lows of coke come and go pretty quick and you are in your control of when and how they happen

Im talking about proper coke users not recreational ones.

are there really that many "proper" cocaine users?

imo there are proper herion and crack users but coke is recreational, i could do coke every night for a month and every other night for 2-3 months then just stop for the next 6 months, go smoke crack for 2 months and see if you could stop.

Yeah mate I think theyre are and I would be interested to see you do your challenge.
Ive only done it a few times but I know a few people who just ended up not being able to go out with out it.

Im talking about people who just end up doing it all day and night because they cant function with out it.

Found this though which should help people understand bipolar a lot better http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Bipolar