Ace high

[George2Loose]

Ok with the flat pre? And now?

Full Tilt Poker Game #17237559126: $25,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (129011635), Table 5 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:24:07 ET - 2009/12/31
Seat 1: weeld26 (2,960)
Seat 2: joshk1 (9,632)
Seat 3: George2Loose (16,149)
Seat 4: phatchoy888 (12,483)
Seat 5: McLeroy31061 (4,585)
Seat 6: RUDY XOXO (1,663)
Seat 7: Buxbom (13,990)
Seat 8: shakyamunl (8,331)
Seat 9: seg84 (5,274)
RUDY XOXO posts the small blind of 80
Buxbom posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [As ]
shakyamunl raises to 480
seg84 has 15 seconds left to act
seg84 calls 480
weeld26 folds
joshk1 folds
George2Loose calls 480
phatchoy888 has 15 seconds left to act
phatchoy888 raises to 1,920
McLeroy31061 folds
RUDY XOXO folds
Buxbom folds
shakyamunl calls 1,440
seg84 folds
George2Loose has 15 seconds left to act
George2Loose ?

[GreekStein]

any info on opponents?

[George2Loose]

I recognise 3 betters name. Table was pretty solid/ABC. Think utg is peeling with shite. Worried about 3 bettor behind.

[railtard1]

phatch0y888 is a SICKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

prob nothing is super bad in this spot.. if you 3bet pre you can prob play the hand better... i.e if he cold 4's... then you fold with effect stacks being pretty deep.

assuming you have read on original raiser to say he is peeling light after flatting 25% of his stack pre???

[810ofclubs]

obv eyeball for me dude

[George2Loose]

phatch0y888 is a SICKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

prob nothing is super bad in this spot.. if you 3bet pre you can prob play the hand better... i.e if he cold 4's... then you fold with effect stacks being pretty deep.

assuming you have read on original raiser to say he is peeling light after flatting 25% of his stack pre???

UTG was playing like a tard. His peel here doesn't have to be stong. In fact I'm sure he'd reshove top end of his range.

Is this a 4 bet, call situation. Should I shove? Is peeling bad? I tanked this one hard.

[the rage]

Another very good hand post. It's tricky now, so even tougher when you've only got about thirty seconds. I'll go for a re-raise all in. If you're correct about shaky, and phatchy has observed this too, he may well have under-estimated the strength of your hand. If you flat call your hand could be very difficult to play post flop, so i would put the question to phatchy pre-flop and neutralise your positional disadvantage. If he has aces or kings, thats tough, but you may end up getting the chips in later in the hand anyway if this is the case. Definitely an all-in for me.
  prob rubbish-just having a go-ATB-Rage

[Cottonbud]

I'm AHHHHHHH-INNNNN! Your hand is so under repped the 3bettor folds so often to your shove here too, get it in George!

[JK]

Agree with Cotton, UTG flats because he thinks youll fold, theres no way he can have you on a hand as big as you have. I reshove.

[George2Loose]

I tank shoved. Phat snapped with Kings. UTG snapped with AQ

[the rage]

Ul. Obviously not what you wanted to see. Hope you hit the ace. Thanks for sharing. ATB-Rage.

[Cottonbud]

I tank shoved. Phat snapped with Kings. UTG snapped with AQ

Results orientated, you made the right play mate so don't worry about it.

[George2Loose]

I tank shoved. Phat snapped with Kings. UTG snapped with AQ

Results orientated, you made the right play mate so don't worry about it.

Always like to check these things

[pleno1]

all depends on phatchoy888 stats, railtard sais he's a sicko, so I guess he's squeezing pretty wide here, I dont think we ever get called off worse.

If he shove we get all worse hands to fold, if we flat then 4bet our line looks so weird that we might get AQ to shove over us.

So phatchoy888 has raised to 1950, is raising to 4399 really bad here?

[Cottonbud]

So phatchoy888 has raised to 1950, is raising to 4399 really bad here?

It is bad if your not planning to call it off, if your 4betting for value then its fine just don't ever 4bet fold AK otherwise just fold or call the 3bet, calling here would be terrible though playing AK OOP in a multiway pot. Also if he's a good thinking player he can 5bet shove here light as you are the 2nd player to flat call the UTG raise so its going to be more difficult for you to have a BIG hand in his mind.