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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2010, 11:06:14 PM » |
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this the $20r?
i fold here in this comp, way way way better opps to get chips. The 3bet here pre antes is very seldom AQ or TT
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2010, 11:10:55 PM » |
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WTF is this a level?
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2010, 11:12:04 PM » |
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Think crucial stage in the hand is me flatting pre. Should I always be 3 betting here?
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2010, 11:12:38 PM » |
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Think crucial stage in the hand is me flatting pre. Should I always be 3 betting here?
I would 3bet here George yeah! |
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2010, 11:13:47 PM » |
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i wouldn't 3 bet in the jail game pre antes.
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2010, 11:17:51 PM » |
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i wouldn't 3 bet in the jail game pre antes.
Now I kno its a level! asif u fold AK here Trigg |
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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2010, 11:19:21 PM » |
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its not a level. Phatchoy is not 3bet stealing here this deep in a $20r.
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2010, 11:28:27 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2010, 12:04:09 AM » |
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Only way I could get away from this hand is if I 3bet to isolate the UTG raiser (who you say is raising light in early postion) then if I got cold 4bet then I would obv fold. When you've played it like this I can't find a pass tbh. Obv there is a valid arguement in the fact this guy could be multitabling and never squeezing light.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2010, 01:27:04 AM » |
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Real eye-opener for me this hand, having discussed in more detail with Trigg and James about this hand they both tell me the same thing I did actually think Trigg was levelling me at 1st, people never squeeze light pre antes and that this guy is most likely multitabling therefore his range is so small it's like never worse than queens that he has. Being a 6max cash game specialist myself where players are alot more aggressive and capable of squeezing light and stacks are always 100bbs+ I guess 80bbs is more important in a tournament than 100bbs in a cash game. Knowing our opponent almost always folds AK and QQ here though to a 4bet shove and we have Ace and King blockers is it really as easy a pass as James and Trigg state?
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2010, 03:32:44 AM » |
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omg three of my heroes debating this hand, doctor keys doctor trigg and doctor williams.
i cant read this thread anymore. it upsets me too much that you all have different opinions.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2010, 05:24:21 PM » |
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Well I'm pretty much done with this hand appreciate the opinions put on here, but I disagree that he calls here with AK and I don't think hes going to want to call off QQ this deep if he is a good tournament player multitabling. If he is 1 tabling and noticed our overcall which I stated earlier then I think he might tank call with Queens, AK is a hand you can't call with this deep imo. I was playing in Galway ME was late on day 1 antes were in play and the same situation happend but I was the squeezer with AJss the initial raiser 4bet me, there was a fold and the over caller shoved I obv snap folded and the other guy called with QQ and the over caller had Aces, maybe just a one off it was a €2k buyin so the standard is going to be alot higher compared to a $30 rebuy. But like I said real eye opener and I for one will be giving squeeze plays more respect pre antes from now on in tournaments.
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2010, 05:40:53 PM » |
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but I disagree that he calls here with AK and I don't think hes going to want to call off QQ this deep if he is a good tournament player multitabling. it's like you've hit rock bottom and you're trying to dig |
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2010, 05:43:27 PM » |
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but I disagree that he calls here with AK and I don't think hes going to want to call off QQ this deep if he is a good tournament player multitabling. it's like you've hit rock bottom and you're trying to dig lol? |
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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2010, 05:49:42 PM » |
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we are repping like 88-JJ pretty strong with the backraise and you think a good reg folds QQ/AK? No
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