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« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2010, 03:25:36 AM »

In case you're interested, here's a bit of the consultation paper.



Key issues raised
USE OF LOWER CASE G AND T
9. Seven of the respondents to the consultation, in particular those from Gypsy
and Irish Traveller representative organisations, were dismayed at the use of
lower case g and t throughout the consultation document as they believed it
undermined the fact that Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers were recognised
ethnic groups and were covered by race relations legislation. Respondents that
raised this issue thought that the term should be capitalised, even where it
might cover other travellers that were not members of these ethnic groups,
since the majority of those covered by the term were ethnic Gypsies and
Travellers and to use lower case g and t was derogatory.
RESPONSE
10. As explained in the consultation document itself, the term ‘gypsies and
travellers’ is what appears in the Act and therefore the Department replicated
the term in lower case throughout the document so as not to presuppose the
ethnicity of those covered by the definition i.e. in recognition of the fact that
Definition of the term ‘gypsies and travellers’ for the purposes of the Housing Act 2004
6
some nomadic people covered by the definition would not necessarily be
Romany Gypsies or Irish Travellers.
11. However, the Department recognises that Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers
are separate ethnic groups and that this ethnic status cannot be removed. In
addition, in response to this concern, unless the actual term in legislation is
being referred to (which uses lower case and cannot be changed by secondary
legislation) the Government will use upper case G and T in the future. The
formulation, Gypsies and Travellers, in upper case is therefore used throughout
this document, particularly given that the broad definition is intended to cover
all ethnic Gypsies and Travellers as well as other types of traveller.



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« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2010, 04:35:35 AM »

In case you're interested, here's a bit of the consultation paper.



Key issues raised
USE OF LOWER CASE G AND T
9. Seven of the respondents to the consultation, in particular those from Gypsy
and Irish Traveller representative organisations, were dismayed at the use of
lower case g and t throughout the consultation document as they believed it
undermined the fact that Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers were recognised
ethnic groups and were covered by race relations legislation. Respondents that
raised this issue thought that the term should be capitalised, even where it
might cover other travellers that were not members of these ethnic groups,
since the majority of those covered by the term were ethnic Gypsies and
Travellers and to use lower case g and t was derogatory.
RESPONSE
10. As explained in the consultation document itself, the term ‘gypsies and
travellers’ is what appears in the Act and therefore the Department replicated
the term in lower case throughout the document so as not to presuppose the
ethnicity of those covered by the definition i.e. in recognition of the fact that
Definition of the term ‘gypsies and travellers’ for the purposes of the Housing Act 2004
6
some nomadic people covered by the definition would not necessarily be
Romany Gypsies or Irish Travellers.
11. However, the Department recognises that Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers
are separate ethnic groups and that this ethnic status cannot be removed. In
addition, in response to this concern, unless the actual term in legislation is
being referred to (which uses lower case and cannot be changed by secondary
legislation) the Government will use upper case G and T in the future. The
formulation, Gypsies and Travellers, in upper case is therefore used throughout
this document, particularly given that the broad definition is intended to cover
all ethnic Gypsies and Travellers as well as other types of traveller.






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« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2010, 05:02:52 AM »

In case you're interested, here's a bit of the consultation paper.



Key issues raised
USE OF LOWER CASE G AND T
9. Seven of the respondents to the consultation, in particular those from Gypsy
and Irish Traveller representative organisations, were dismayed at the use of
lower case g and t throughout the consultation document as they believed it
undermined the fact that Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers were recognised
ethnic groups and were covered by race relations legislation. Respondents that
raised this issue thought that the term should be capitalised, even where it
might cover other travellers that were not members of these ethnic groups,
since the majority of those covered by the term were ethnic Gypsies and
Travellers and to use lower case g and t was derogatory.
RESPONSE
10. As explained in the consultation document itself, the term ‘gypsies and
travellers’ is what appears in the Act and therefore the Department replicated
the term in lower case throughout the document so as not to presuppose the
ethnicity of those covered by the definition i.e. in recognition of the fact that
Definition of the term ‘gypsies and travellers’ for the purposes of the Housing Act 2004
6
some nomadic people covered by the definition would not necessarily be
Romany Gypsies or Irish Travellers.
11. However, the Department recognises that Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers
are separate ethnic groups and that this ethnic status cannot be removed. In
addition, in response to this concern, unless the actual term in legislation is
being referred to (which uses lower case and cannot be changed by secondary
legislation) the Government will use upper case G and T in the future. The
formulation, Gypsies and Travellers, in upper case is therefore used throughout
this document, particularly given that the broad definition is intended to cover
all ethnic Gypsies and Travellers as well as other types of traveller.






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« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2010, 09:30:32 AM »

Just catching up with Blonde so hadn't seen the posts by Chasin Cards. My guess it's Colin Porter, recently barred from AWOP for similar. (ie. being a cock) Same style of illiterate, rambling shite content plus obsession with Bolton.

Beware his Gypsy curse power tho - he emailed Al the Fox telling him to fuck off an die of cancer... 2 weeks later Fox in hospital for Xmas wit smoking related issues. He hasn't threatened anyone on here with nob rot has he?

FYP

You changed the word gypsy to Gypsy?

Yes Ma'am. Gypsies are an ethnic minority, so the word Gypsy should begin with a capital G.

I know it may seem a bit pedantic, but the battle for recognition of ethnic status was long and hard fought. Omitting the upper case G (a la tabloid) is a step backwards.



But Sir, I may not have been referring to the Romany Gypsy. I may have been using the term generically and referring to members of groups known collectively as gypsies such as the Dom and Lom tribes. I believe the capital letter is not then required.

Lol this is absolute comedy!

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« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2010, 10:35:02 AM »

I'm also a bit shit at abbreviations so have no idea what tldr and qft mean.

Woodsey - yes. But you knew the answer already Smiley Work commitments mean I am unlikely to be handing any comedy rubdowns out at Bolton but I plan to play Manchester in February so feel free to ask if you see me and I'll try to oblige.
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« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2010, 10:44:52 AM »

I'm also a bit shit at abbreviations so have no idea what tldr and qft mean.

Woodsey - yes. But you knew the answer already Smiley Work commitments mean I am unlikely to be handing any comedy rubdowns out at Bolton but I plan to play Manchester in February so feel free to ask if you see me and I'll try to oblige.

tl;dr = Too long; didn't read.

QFT = Quoted for truth.   

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« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2010, 11:25:59 AM »

lol ty...
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« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2010, 11:27:52 AM »

Would it amuse you further that I had to ask my fella what FYP meant? He couldn't tell me for a while as he was too busy laughing when I told him I thought it meant "For Your Pleasure". And that's QFT.
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