river raises annoy me somewhat

[piestack]

villain is a bit of a nit, but stacks off with tptk. even with a 4 to a straight on the board. against an overbet river shove. like he did vs me 4 hands ago. hence why i called pre.

my line looks fos, but then, so does his.
call raise or fold?

6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($789 in chips)
Seat 2: btn ($648.10 in chips)
Seat 3: small ($511 in chips)
Seat 4: big ($645.80 in chips)
Seat 5: villain ($400 in chips)
Seat 6: +1 ($507.60 in chips)
small: posts small blind $2
big: posts big blind $4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]
villain: raises $10 to $14
+1: folds
Hero: calls $14
btn: folds
small: folds
big: folds

*** FLOP *** [ ]
villain: bets $20
Hero: calls $20

*** TURN *** [ ] []
villain: checks
Hero: checks

*** RIVER *** [ ] []
villain: checks
Hero: bets $40
villain: raises $108 to $148
Hero:

[Sack it off]

you fold cos he has a house

[outragous76]

What he said

[Blatch]

you fold cos he has a house

Why do you think villain checks turn with a set here on such a draw heavy board?  Once we have called the flop the turn doesnt change anything.

[GreekStein]

i call.

[George2Loose]

Problem is if villian is bad he may check turn with with a set.

However on the other hand I don't think many bad players can check a full house here on the river hoping you'll bet

I'd call too

[AlexMartin]

well the top of your range looks like KQ and villain could be trying to move u off top pair, so this could be a level spot, which makes me inclined to call.


disclaimer:-

nah fk that, 95% of the time sackitoff is right and he has a house. hes a nit, right?

[Blatch]

well the top of your range looks like KQ and villain could be trying to move u off top pair, so this could be a level spot, which makes me inclined to call.


disclaimer:-

nah fk that, 95% of the time sackitoff is right and he has a house. hes a nit, right?

A nit who stacks off with TPTK on a 4 card straight board?  BEHAVE!!!!

Only hand I think were losing too is 

[Blatch]

Yeah just call. Rare that people go for a river c/r for value when the turn c/r fails. Agree with Blatch that A4 seems like the only hand that he could have that makes any sense.

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[railtard1]

mehh, pretty sure 99 plays this way also, will try and check raise the turn, then probably check river to induce bluffs from a ton of missed draws etc,..
Top of ur range is KQ though... depends how good of a nit he is
level myself into a callllllll

[outragous76]

so for everyone saying call - what are we  beating? - you are all working on the basis its a bluff?

i think the villain could be looking to c/r the turn

fairly certain that the river doesnt improve the heros hand he lets the hero bet all his missed draws on the end (as surely when the hero is checking the turn you have to include draw type hands in his range??)

as for him check raising - well he is hoping it looks like a bluff with his 99 and he gets snapped by TP no kicker??? 

[Radagast]

I agree he looks loose from your previous experience.  Is he clever enough to do the same to you with a big hand?

Also if he is not that sharp then maybe he is checking a set on the turn.

In terms of his pre flop raise I say he has better than QT this time. 

I am folding this Im afraid.

[kinboshi]

Can we define 'bit of a nit' please?

[GreekStein]

Just wondering if someone could help me here....does the Queen in our hand match the top card of all 5 on the board?

[Sack it off]

I just think we have played this hand too much like we have top pair and its obvious the everyone, so not many players will see this as a bluffing opportunity