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George2Loose
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Re: WTF WTF WTF????
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January 29, 2010, 01:18:03 AM »
Quote from: thetank on January 29, 2010, 01:09:54 AM
Quote from: George2Loose on January 29, 2010, 12:14:04 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 28, 2010, 11:26:08 PM
Ignore result, call next time too
Ignore result?
n=1
Sometimes you're going to get "owned by the top of their range"
Your call was still very correct
I meant that I obv hit an ace
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thetank
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January 29, 2010, 01:21:10 AM »
semantics
On this board I would say result is you stacked off behind (but correctly!)
The hitting ace is irrelevant to the hand analysis part of things. This isn't the hand story board
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January 29, 2010, 01:31:14 AM »
When I said ignore result, I meant don't let that he had two pair this time stop you stacking off in this spot in the future.
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George2Loose
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January 29, 2010, 01:38:29 AM »
I never realised how easy it was to level you tank
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Woodsey
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January 29, 2010, 02:56:04 AM »
I think its worth making these types of plays now and again when there is a flush draw out there, I do it sometimes and you get called very often.
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thetank
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January 29, 2010, 03:00:30 AM »
Facing the bet, you'd still call vs random tho right?
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January 29, 2010, 03:09:05 AM »
Quote from: thetank on January 29, 2010, 03:00:30 AM
Facing the bet, you'd still call vs random tho right?
Not necessarily, as I say I do this regularly so am wise to it, the worst he probably has is a flush draw and there is a good chance your beaten. Always a better spot IMO..........and you have 100 bbs so there's no rush.
In reality it probably just depends on my mood at the time, size of comp and how seriously I'm taking it as to whether I call or not. If you think think the guy has AA/KK/AQ he will call a lot of the time because of the draw, shipping in this spot isn't a terrible strategy.
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January 29, 2010, 09:13:44 AM »
I dont think shoving 10k into 0.5k can be anything other than a terrible strategy.
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Woodsey
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January 29, 2010, 10:18:33 AM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on January 29, 2010, 09:13:44 AM
I dont think shoving 10k into 0.5k can be anything other than a terrible strategy.
I totally understand why you would say that. If there is a flush draw out there, try it the odd time, see what happens, I promise you will get called often. Just look at all the responses there have been on here about instacalling. I think live its less likely to work because people fold better live, but online they call very light. I know its not conventional thinking, but please don't totally dismiss the idea. The only reason I'm saying it is I know from experience it works.
There's a ton of hero's out there these days...........
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January 29, 2010, 06:56:08 PM »
The overbet isn't a bad strategy sometimes in general Woodsey, I just think that this is a bad spot for it from opponents POV here as the only hand that will call you that you also beat is AQ. (The big pairs having 3-bet pre)
Even AQ is going to 3-bet opponent pre half the time. He really was very fortunate to get a call here.
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January 29, 2010, 07:13:15 PM »
Quote from: thetank on January 29, 2010, 06:56:08 PM
The overbet isn't a bad strategy sometimes in general Woodsey, I just think that this is a bad spot for it from opponents POV here as the only hand that will call you that you also beat is AQ. (The big pairs having 3-bet pre)
Even AQ is going to 3-bet opponent pre half the time. He really was very fortunate to get a call here.
Yeah, I agree there is much better spots to do it, probably the CR all in on the flop being the best scenario.
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January 30, 2010, 11:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Woodsey on January 29, 2010, 02:56:04 AM
I think its worth making these types of plays now and again when there is a flush draw out there, I do it sometimes and you get called very often.
Do you ever win at poker?
I mean im sorry, maybe im the super fish here and not on your level, but even if the guy turns his hand face up and im shown
or similar im still folding. I have put 2bb into the pot, 1 of which was unwillingly. I have one pair and one spade blocker. Do i want to put in another 100 big blinds in this spot. I fold here 99% of the time UNLESS the guy is some crazy idiot who is shoving like this every hand or sumink.. (which may be the case IDK).
Just everyone seems to think this is a snap? I have seen people ridic overbet jam with aa and kk in similar spots because they are scared to play postflop etc. If were snapping, why are we snapping? cos we think he has a total air ball? or because we think we have him dominated most of the time? i mean, we need to see kq, jq and 67ss all the time for this to be the correct call right?
The guy is obv a retard for this kind of jam, so if he is doing this often, then by all means call... but in general i dont see snapping him off here being profitable..
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January 31, 2010, 02:13:07 AM »
fold, probs in equity flip/crushed a majority, early, super deep, "better spots".
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January 31, 2010, 10:56:40 AM »
Wow someone else has sense
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January 31, 2010, 02:01:57 PM »
yeh unless u have a read that he does this every hand or something he will never have air here, its almost always AA/KK/22/33/a flush draw or even... Q2s lol. think we have too many blinds to be putting in here with tptk, in what is pretty much a flip or 40/60 shot readless.
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