Rob Yong's Blog V3 "WSOP 2010 & Life After DTD Opened"

[GreekStein]

hi rob, just wonder if the guy u mentioned in the club was meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

goog luck 2 whatever u do anyway.

will alway support u my chinese mate.

pls make chinese frankie an honorary member of the wsop team.

[titaniumbean]

hi rob, just wonder if the guy u mentioned in the club was meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

goog luck 2 whatever u do anyway.

will alway support u my chinese mate.

pls make chinese frankie an honorary member of the wsop team.

FRANKIE IS KING!






IS IT

[810ofclubs]

hi rob, just wonder if the guy u mentioned in the club was meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

goog luck 2 whatever u do anyway.

will alway support u my chinese mate.

go on frankieeeee

[AlexMartin]

hi rob, just wonder if the guy u mentioned in the club was meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

goog luck 2 whatever u do anyway.

will alway support u my chinese mate.

go on frankieeeee

+100000 star there

[Simon Galloway]

As always, look to Pokerstars for the answer.  WSOP is the only tourny that they won't buy you in for ~ no need to take legal advice, they have already done it for you

Stars get around it by handing out the cash into players accounts and offering an inducement to take the seat by adding a little on top with a hotel/merchandising package for all those that choose to play.

Perhaps a twist on this would be to "offer" to take care of the currency problems for people and give them a choice of an online credit (so that people genuinely do have an option) or physical $$ for players in person at a mini-ceremony that happened to be hosted in a LV bar somewhere.

There is always a temptation for the budget-conscious to trouser the win and not go.  But for those that get there and are handed the $$$, well there's not much point in doing anything other than playing a few WSOP events (or the M.E.) with it is there?

[EvilPie]

Instead of the prize being $15k including buy in for ME make it $10k with $5k worth of Vegas trip if you choose to use the $10k to buy in to the ME.

[Simon Galloway]

Instead of the prize being $15k including buy in for ME make it $10k with $5k worth of Vegas trip if you choose to use the $10k to buy in to the ME.

£100 shootout juice free on that basis?  Assuming £1=$1.50 for this, a 100 player shootout is the $15k covered.  If half of all winners (for the sake of easy argument) chooses to take the $10k instead, then you insta-make $2.5k in juice on average.  The other half of the the winners takes the seat +$5k vegas trip/hospitality etc and you have a DTD shirt on them as well as a happy customer.

[chrisbruce]

Wow Looking forward to this read and having a shot for the WSOP.

Amazing prize on offer and I am sure Rob will sort out how best to do this.

[outragous76]

Instead of the prize being $15k including buy in for ME make it $10k with $5k worth of Vegas trip if you choose to use the $10k to buy in to the ME.

£100 shootout juice free on that basis?  Assuming £1=$1.50 for this, a 100 player shootout is the $15k covered.  If half of all winners (for the sake of easy argument) chooses to take the $10k instead, then you insta-make $2.5k in juice on average.  The other half of the the winners takes the seat +$5k vegas trip/hospitality etc and you have a DTD shirt on them as well as a happy customer.

LOL - Im pretty sure DTD/Rob will be dipping into their own pockets for this one - can see them raising $250k in tourney buy ins alone - give them a break!

[ScottMGee]

Provided that Rob and the club are not out of pocket, i.e. buyin and juice cover the $15,000 package and the costs of running the comps, does it matter if the players just go to Vegas, have a good time and play a little poker and ditch the ME in favour of $10,000 in their pocket.

Personally if I have the choice of Vegas trip & $10,000!!!!!! in my pocket vs Vegas Trip & ME entry I know which one I am taking.

[Simon Galloway]

does it matter if the players just go to Vegas, have a good time and play a little poker and ditch the ME in favour of $10,000 in their pocket.

Personally if I have the choice of Vegas trip & $10,000!!!!!! in my pocket vs Vegas Trip & ME entry I know which one I am taking.

Obv it's Rob's club (and his thread for that matter) and I'm sure he will come up with a great solution if he decides to proceed.

As for people banking the money instead, I can't quite get my head around it.  The thought process seems to go like this:

1. Can't afford to buy in to the M.E. so I'm gonna take me a shot at a super sat / double-shootout etc.  That way I can play the M.E. on the cheap.
2.  Did I win the satellite? Wow!  That's a lot of money, I'd rather take it in cash thanks.
3. I hope I get a chance to play the M.E. next year....

If it was my club/site etc then I would certainly place a value on having a team of players all taking their respective shots (with my shirt on) into the tournament which the original satellite was designed to place them.

[Jon MW]

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As for people banking the money instead, I can't quite get my head around it.  The thought process seems to go like this:

1. Can't afford to buy in to the M.E. so I'm gonna take me a shot at a super sat / double-shootout etc.  That way I can play the M.E. on the cheap.
2.  Did I win the satellite? Wow!  That's a lot of money, I'd rather take it in cash thanks.
3. I hope I get a chance to play the M.E. next year....

If it was my club/site etc then I would certainly place a value on having a team of players all taking their respective shots (with my shirt on) into the tournament which the original satellite was designed to place them.

I think it's more realistically that people decide they can't possibly justify spending some/several (depending on how good their job is) months wages on one tournament  and they never intended to play the ME

If the whole of the expenses (including the $10k nominal entry fee) was paid in cash when you got there then people would 'have' to take the holiday, and I think having the cash in your pocket would certainly encourage them to spend it while they were there. Even if they didn't play the ME event with it I would imagine it would gain DtD some exposure in the WSOP cheaper events they might be more likely to enter.

[Simon Galloway]

Yeah but this is the mystery!  If it's several months wages and beyond sensible to play, fine, but why try and qualify?

[Jon MW]

Yeah but this is the mystery!  If it's several months wages and beyond sensible to play, fine, but why try and qualify?

$10k in the pocket, that's what I meant - that's the plan all along

[mondatoo]

Yeah but this is the mystery!  If it's several months wages and beyond sensible to play, fine, but why try and qualify?

Because you don't HAVE to play the ME and most people who aren't balla and have a choice between 10k in there pocket or play the ME will always choose the cash.It is interesting though because I would like to play the ME one day but if it wasn't seen as bad form by Rob me going over and playing something else with a dtd top on that's what I'd rather do,so when will I ever play the ME 

I was thinking for my next big trip I'd like to play the Aussie Millions and noticed stars make you play it if you bink a sat,I was glad that was the case so I don't have the option.

Looking forward to seeing what Rob comes up with for this,looks like there'll be a ton of interest.