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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2010, 06:10:17 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2010, 06:11:23 PM » |
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He almost never checks/shove a K here because most people aren't Rick Trigg and value bet thin here.
What's thin on a board of KKK? Think you'll be surprised how many people would check Jacks behind here. His line screams Kings. Does he really play a 10 this way? or anything worse than JJ? It's a pretty elaborate bluff if he's pulling one off. |
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2010, 06:12:57 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
Errrr I would jam with 4 kings all day. I must be bad. |
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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2010, 06:21:51 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
Ever rangemerge? |
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2010, 06:24:49 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
Ever rangemerge? He plays live. He doesn't need to. |
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2010, 06:41:11 PM » |
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We have no history vs villain and we have no reads so why would villain choose to rangemerge here?
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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2010, 07:07:33 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
zeebo's theorem came out in 2006, pretty cool that there are still people who haven't heard of it, or maybe i'm a sad no life poker geek, hmmm |
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2010, 07:30:39 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
zeebo's theorem came out in 2006, pretty cool that there are still people who haven't heard of it, or maybe i'm a sad no life poker geek, hmmm perfectly shown in this hand. |
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2010, 07:37:59 PM » |
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Would I play Kx like this? Norrrrr
have I seen randoms play Kx like this hundreds of times? Yessss
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2010, 07:41:26 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
a checkraise is dependant on hero's CALLING range though. |
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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2010, 07:42:50 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
Ever rangemerge? huh? like who the fuck ever jams 99 for value here or has bluffs? meh maybe iv lost the plot |
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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2010, 07:54:36 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
Ever rangemerge? huh? like who the fuck ever jams 99 for value here or has bluffs? meh maybe iv lost the plot Nah I just meant you wouldn't always play the nuts (a king) in exactly the same way if you were a good player |
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2010, 07:58:21 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
Ever rangemerge? huh? like who the fuck ever jams 99 for value here or has bluffs? meh maybe iv lost the plot i know what rangemerging is obv. but are you saying that nobody ever bluffs here? or just saying people dont jam 99 and bluff here? If its the first then surely its a snap fold? |
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2010, 08:47:21 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
zeebo's theorem came out in 2006, pretty cool that there are still people who haven't heard of it, or maybe i'm a sad no life poker geek, hmmm I don't get it. How does villain know hero has a house again? |
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« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2010, 09:01:58 PM » |
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Jamming the river with the four kings isn't optimal imo as you miss value from bluffs and vbets from big pairs...thus villain isn't playing poker very well...and you can't say somebody who doesn't play poker very well definitely has quads when implementing this particular line...he might have another hand he's not playing very well instead.
zeebo's theorem came out in 2006, pretty cool that there are still people who haven't heard of it, or maybe i'm a sad no life poker geek, hmmm I don't get it. How does villain know hero has a house again? he doesnt, but he knows that villain is unlikely to fold a house. so everytime he shoves and villain has a 10 or better he will call, like proven in said hand. |
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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