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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2010, 11:09:47 PM »

Honestly can't see why it matters
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2010, 11:13:07 PM »

saw a guy flat with a royal flush, last to act at DTD once. It was against HoldorFold and I think she was kinda grateful.

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It gets me when someone has AA and checks when an A comes down on the flop. 

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2010, 11:37:51 PM »

Why can't someone just flat call with the nuts?
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2010, 11:44:22 PM »

Why can't someone set fire to money?
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2010, 05:03:55 AM »

Used to deal at DTD, there is a penalty in place for people flatting the nuts. Iv multiple times asked the floor to give warnings to players, even if they didnt quite get it.

Its the dealers job to explain to the player that their hand is unbeatable on the river, so there is no reason they shouldnt raise. If they admit to knowing they had the nuts, they can be served a round ban, or in some cases (never seen any), Id guess a disqualification if its serious enough.

As Mantis said, you flat the nuts, you may as well light up your smoke with a £50 note
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2010, 05:29:05 AM »

If theres two left in a hand and by the river they both make the broadway staight the action would have to be raise , reraise ,reraise ,reraise .....etc till all the chips go in.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2010, 10:23:24 AM »

If theres two left in a hand and by the river they both make the broadway staight the action would have to be raise , reraise ,reraise ,reraise .....etc till all the chips go in.

Yep. So it should.

A more interesting example would be if the board had a rainbow broadway straight on it (or quads with an ace kicker, or a royal flush). Do you bother then?
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2010, 10:30:16 AM »

If theres two left in a hand and by the river they both make the broadway staight the action would have to be raise , reraise ,reraise ,reraise .....etc till all the chips go in.

Yep. So it should.

A more interesting example would be if the board had a rainbow broadway straight on it (or quads with an ace kicker, or a royal flush). Do you bother then?

As a player, yes. Quite a few times now I've shoved with the board having the nuts and people have folded cos they can't read the board properly.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2010, 10:33:33 AM »

people make mistakes, a quiet word afterwards should suffice.
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2010, 10:42:11 AM »

If theres two left in a hand and by the river they both make the broadway staight the action would have to be raise , reraise ,reraise ,reraise .....etc till all the chips go in.

Yep. So it should.

A more interesting example would be if the board had a rainbow broadway straight on it (or quads with an ace kicker, or a royal flush). Do you bother then?

i love this with the quads - people jsut dont get it

Even better is when you have Ax the board runs out quads and they call the all in (with like KK) thinking they have quads too and its chop chop time- not realising about the kicker. I think there is a famous one with Chad brown [edit found it]

about 3 minutes in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRIRembBbE0
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2010, 12:32:41 PM »

only had one spot like this in a live comp and if i cared about the buyin i woulda complained... playing a 30fo at local shithole gala... i have  and the board runs out  and villain checks to me on the river... i have 6k chips and know i can probably only win by bluffing... i bet 3k... villain only calls with  ... unbeatable hand... i ask him why he didn't raise and he said he thought i was never going to call anymore LOL... if it was 100fo or above i woulda tried to call the floor and report this as cheating for sure...

errr wouldnt he be cheating with YOU!!!! as you are the beneficiary of his soft play wouldnt you both be subject to a penalty?
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2010, 12:53:10 PM »

only had one spot like this in a live comp and if i cared about the buyin i woulda complained... playing a 30fo at local shithole gala... i have  and the board runs out  and villain checks to me on the river... i have 6k chips and know i can probably only win by bluffing... i bet 3k... villain only calls with  ... unbeatable hand... i ask him why he didn't raise and he said he thought i was never going to call anymore LOL... if it was 100fo or above i woulda tried to call the floor and report this as cheating for sure...

errr wouldnt he be cheating with YOU!!!! as you are the beneficiary of his soft play wouldnt you both be subject to a penalty?

You can't be subject to a penalty if you had no say in how the other played their hand.  Otherwise that would be wide open to angle-shooting and all sorts of interesting stuff.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2010, 12:59:01 PM »

right that makes sense dont really play live so not really aut fait with all the rulings  just thought it was funny that he would consider calling the floor when he was the beneficiary of the villians poor play.
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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2010, 01:44:11 PM »

If theres two left in a hand and by the river they both make the broadway staight the action would have to be raise , reraise ,reraise ,reraise .....etc till all the chips go in.

Would be nice if the dealer didn't take half an hour to pull each successive raise into the middle though and then another half hour splitting the pot...
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2010, 01:47:06 PM »

If theres two left in a hand and by the river they both make the broadway staight the action would have to be raise , reraise ,reraise ,reraise .....etc till all the chips go in.

I did this once in an online game when there were still 5 people in the pot. I was the first to act and did it thinking someone might fold by mistake. They didn't, we all spilt the pot and I got flamed because of the additional rake cost. Didn't bother explaining myself and thought it was worth the extra rake just incase. Stranger things have happened at the poker table.
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