Want to throw $11 away?

[suzanne]

I thought I might have coz the original raise was very small so possibly a weak bet/strong hand like AA/KK, sb was in a lot of pots and using his stack well.

[mondatoo]

I thought I might have coz the original raise was very small so possibly a weak bet/strong hand like AA/KK, sb was in a lot of pots and using his stack well.

Sb looks super strong,it's not often I'd fold top 2 but this looks like a gross spot where we maybe can,I've had a bit to drink so maybe not the best time for me to be analysing hands though He can't really have AK or a set so it would be pretty bad spot for him to bluff but a large % of players in these are really bad,looks like he has 89 to me but not keen on narrowing his range down to one hand.

[EvilPie]

I'm not folding top two there. Yes the action is strong but I can't see how we can narrow his range to 89.

His range here includes any of the following and probably quite a few others.

89, 9 10, 9J, 9Q, K9, K10, KJ, KQ, Q10, J10, AK, AQ, AJ, A10.

All of the above hands that aren't beating us already have a good chance of developing to beat us so make very good semi bluff hands.

There's a very strong chance that we're winning already and if not we've got outs against everything but QQ.

Insta call for me.

[mondatoo]

I'm not folding top two there. Yes the action is strong but I can't see how we can narrow his range to 89.

His range here includes any of the following and probably quite a few others.

89, 9 10, 9J, 9Q, K9, K10, KJ, KQ, Q10, J10, AK, AQ, AJ, A10.

All of the above hands that aren't beating us already have a good chance of developing to beat us so make very good semi bluff hands.

There's a very strong chance that we're winning already and if not we've got outs against everything but QQ.

Insta call for me.

Our oppo is supposed to be competent so i find it hard to believe his range includes a lot of those hands when we've called pre to then lead the flop got raised and he jams ??

Even people in these donkaments aren't jamming that wide in this specific spot,surely ?

Meh as I say I'm probably talking a load of bs and will look at this tmoro and think wtf ?  but it looks like we're behind to me

[pleno1]

wtf? we started hand with 20bbs? put 2.5 of them in pre, 2.5 of them in on flop and want to fold when we have top 2, when oppos could easily have overpair, worse 2pair, pair and draw etc etc. get them innnnn

[suzanne]

I did have a hard think about it and thought I just might be ahead, it didnt make sense that the original raiser had put in such a small bet. Surely you raise more AK? With JJ 1010 I am putting a much bigger bet in too, so I put him on AA, KK or maybe AQ, AJ A10. I wasnt really worried about the sb but like mond I actually thought he might have 89.

The outcome of the hand is irrelevant really as I just wanted to know if i made a bad call. I put AK 1010 and QJ into a poker calculator to see what odds I had of winning the hand on the flop and it said 17% so maybe a bad call.

Anyway my gut feeling was a bit off but I was right in thinking I had the best hand on the flop.

The mid position reraiser had A9?? (Is anyone else shoving their chips in here?) and the sb had KQ. Turn was a 9 giving sb the straight and river was a king giving A9 the higher straight  

[mondatoo]

wtf? we started hand with 20bbs? put 2.5 of them in pre, 2.5 of them in on flop and want to fold when we have top 2, when oppos could easily have overpair, worse 2pair, pair and draw etc etc. get them innnnn

Haha,I'm going to sleep,night

PS For some reason I thought we had 50bbs,honest 

[suzanne]

wtf? we started hand with 20bbs? put 2.5 of them in pre, 2.5 of them in on flop and want to fold when we have top 2, when oppos could easily have overpair, worse 2pair, pair and draw etc etc. get them innnnn

It was for my tourney life though, with a raise and reraise is top 2 pair good enough on that board? I have to think I am behind surely. I think if I had had more chips I would have folded but after my raise on the flop I only had just under 7k back, it was a chance to get into the top 10 and would have stood me in good ground to make a decent return....but ...realistically it was a gamble because I was hoping to hit the full house.

I feel a bit better that some have said yes but im still not sure I made the right move.

[pleno1]

also, check to the raiser imo.

[suzanne]

also, check to the raiser imo.

On the flop?

Yes I did think that was maybe a bad move but if my original thoughts were right I wanted him to shove over the top with his AA/KK and get sb out of the way. If I had checked and he bet then sb goes over the top I might have been able to get away from it.

[LeedsRhodesy]

Snap call imo 

[Ironside]

suz the raise pre is the new standard raise 2.5x the bb people would and should be making that raise with AA or 72o too steal

[suzanne]

suz the raise pre is the new standard raise 2.5x the bb people would and should be making that raise with AA or 72o too steal

Since when did poker players get so sneeky LOL

4th game and tonight we had our first result :-)

17/169 for 37.18 euros :-)

I am totally confused now as original stake was in dollars but who cares. I will work it out after i have played the other 2 games (might just be buying you all a drink :-).

At the moment i am delighted that the original reason for posting was to focus more on my game and tonight I feel I acheived that. There were hands that I might have gambled with which i folded and I picked the right spots to steal. I actually feel good about the way i played and i havent felt like that for a while 

[Claw75]

yeah I snap call too

[outragous76]

wtf? we started hand with 20bbs? put 2.5 of them in pre, 2.5 of them in on flop and want to fold when we have top 2, when oppos could easily have overpair, worse 2pair, pair and draw etc etc. get them innnnn

It was for my tourney life though,

whoooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

how does this phrase keep getting thru in all these threads