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NigDawG
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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Quote from: nirvana on April 20, 2010, 07:00:44 AM
Why do we build a stack that we can win with to then spew 110k with 55 ? I don't get it.
hint: it has something to do with how often he folds to a shove
and also how often he shoves over any other raise
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 09:24:18 AM »
This is apat right? I don't think you need to be getting big chunks of your stack into pots to make progress in this competition. In fact giving inferior oppos a chance of a flipping vs you is prob to your overall detriment.
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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Quote from: nirvana on April 20, 2010, 07:00:44 AM
Why do we build a stack that we can win with to then spew 110k with 55 ? I don't get it.
I wonder how many times in our next tournament I can get that into the conversation?
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 10:06:44 AM »
Just two points
a) the payout isn't top heavy. <30% to the winner, 17% to second
b) the field isn't of inferior quality. Standard has improved a lot
oh and c)
Oppo here looked like Harry Potter, in case that sways anyone's analysis
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 10:48:29 AM »
Quote from: TightEnd on April 20, 2010, 10:06:44 AM
Just two points
a) the payout isn't top heavy. <30% to the winner, 17% to second
b) the field isn't of inferior quality. Standard has improved a lot
oh and c)
Oppo here looked like Harry Potter, in case that sways anyone's analysis
The payout is top heavy Rich, all the money is in the top 3. 9th to 4th get the same prize so I would class that as top heavy.
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 10:52:18 AM »
Plus the GUKPT seat makes 1st a lot more than 2nd.
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 02:08:27 PM »
Quote from: Gamblor21 on April 20, 2010, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on April 20, 2010, 10:06:44 AM
Just two points
a) the payout isn't top heavy. <30% to the winner, 17% to second
b) the field isn't of inferior quality. Standard has improved a lot
oh and c)
Oppo here looked like Harry Potter, in case that sways anyone's analysis
The payout is top heavy Rich, all the money is in the top 3. 9th to 4th get the same prize so I would class that as top heavy.
agreed.
and the standard is still weak.
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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Quote from: Simon Galloway on April 20, 2010, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: nirvana on April 20, 2010, 07:00:44 AM
Why do we build a stack that we can win with to then spew 110k with 55 ? I don't get it.
I wonder how many times in our next tournament I can get that into the conversation?
lol, I'm trying to change.
I can't see a problem with limping here, leaves us lots of options pre and potentially post flop
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 07:52:32 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on April 20, 2010, 01:33:14 AM
Quote from: Newportlad on April 19, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys. I consider it one of my strengths in picking up reads/tells from people. If i shove pre, then i have no information at all about his hand before i risk 110K. On the other hand, if i make it 15K and he just calls, then im in a quandry, as im almost certainly not going to like the board, and be out of position. Still not sure about this one.
As it turns out i called fairly quickly his shove, and he turned over
. which turned into a full house.
So you pick up reads but you called fairly quickly anyway?
As it is I think this is just one of those times where the money was going in anyway
Yep, the way he announced/put his chips in and his LAG image, made me pretty sure he didnt have an overpair. Therefore i have to call.
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 07:57:09 PM »
Quote from: Gamblor21 on April 20, 2010, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on April 20, 2010, 10:06:44 AM
Just two points
a) the payout isn't top heavy. <30% to the winner, 17% to second
b) the field isn't of inferior quality. Standard has improved a lot
oh and c)
Oppo here looked like Harry Potter, in case that sways anyone's analysis
The payout is top heavy Rich, all the money is in the top 3. 9th to 4th get the same prize so I would class that as top heavy.
and 1st gets GUKPT Seat and entry into end of Season tournament (approx 20 players) where winner gets £20K sponsorship for next year. Definately have to play for the win in this.
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 20, 2010, 10:38:37 PM »
You say you have to call because you dont think he has a pair, why do you want to flip with someone who is probs not very good?
Your playing for the win and, I've not played you, but your APAT results would suggest you have a huge edge.
You destroy your advantage and flip a coin for who stays in.
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 21, 2010, 12:19:26 AM »
if the standard is weak i think this is a ridic spot to bet call off 1/2 our stack, not too happy about shoving either. I mean we lose so much postflop flexibility if we lose this bvb coup
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 21, 2010, 12:42:10 AM »
I'm not folding this blind on blind.
Shove pre>>>Raise call>>>Raise fold
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 21, 2010, 01:50:30 PM »
what is a good shove range here please? you are going by Nash (which includes 54s and 89o)? we are shoving AA?
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Re: Thoughts please. Live Hand from APAT UK Championships
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April 21, 2010, 01:54:42 PM »
Quote from: byronkincaid on April 21, 2010, 01:50:30 PM
what is a good shove range here please? you are going by Nash (which includes 54s and 89o)? we are shoving AA?
we rarely need to balance in mtt's is the general consensus i think.
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