results

[kinboshi]

Clegg should think long term. Let the Conservative in as a minority, watch it be really tough for six months, then when the second election comes do a long term deal on PR with Labour


Dispassionately, you don't want to win this election...you'll be unpopular for a long long time

sounds from what he's saying now that lib dem/labour coalition not on the cards

excuse my partisanship for one moment


Get the fk in, well done Clegg for sticking to his guns

Is that what he said?  I'm on the train, so difficult to follow - but wasn't the gist of what he said that if the Tories agree to electoral reform they'd get his backing?

[TightEnd]

That was good from Clegg - quite like the idea of a Condom Condem coalition

did he suggest that?  I thought he was saying tories should have a bash on their own with no overall majority?

Like Tighty suggested that would probably be better in the long term for the Lib Dems, but they have to resist the temptation to try and grab a bit of power while they can (because they could get more at a later date)

I think they'll agree not to block stuff, but without a formal coalition

at the very least the markets (given the developing situation in Greece, spain and the US) will require an emergency budget by a Cameron govt asap with cuts. If not the risk of a credit downgrade to UK sovereign debt (increasing borrowing costs on a £163bn deficit leading to more tax rises, VAT rises etc) is too high. If the Libdems abstain on this budget to allow it to pass the tories will get the voter flack and the Libdems will get credit for being "statesmanlike"

[kinboshi]

Clegg should think long term. Let the Conservative in as a minority, watch it be really tough for six months, then when the second election comes do a long term deal on PR with Labour


Dispassionately, you don't want to win this election...you'll be unpopular for a long long time

This is an interesting way to look at it.  Taking over with a minority government is a bit of a poisoned chalice, like whoever takes over from Fergie at Old Trafford.

[TightEnd]

Clegg should think long term. Let the Conservative in as a minority, watch it be really tough for six months, then when the second election comes do a long term deal on PR with Labour


Dispassionately, you don't want to win this election...you'll be unpopular for a long long time

sounds from what he's saying now that lib dem/labour coalition not on the cards

excuse my partisanship for one moment


Get the fk in, well done Clegg for sticking to his guns

Is that what he said?  I'm on the train, so difficult to follow - but wasn't the gist of what he said that if the Tories agree to electoral reform they'd get his backing?

He stuck to his earlier commitment to give the party with most seats/votes to get first try

it sounded like this meant "have a go as a minority"

[TightEnd]

I love politics.

[kinboshi]

Without a coalition, will a minority Tory government be able to pass anything through?  This surely can only lead to another election later in the year, I can't see any other resolution.

[Claw75]

I love politics.

+1

[TightEnd]

Without a coalition, will a minority Tory government be able to pass anything through?  This surely can only lead to another election later in the year, I can't see any other resolution.

if they do a deal that the Libdems support on a "confidence and supply" basis then its workable, perhaps for a 1-2 year term to allow stability before another election

Without this deal a second election in 2010 is inevitable, as the markets will require more to be done than a minority govt can deliver.

[Claw75]

Without a coalition, will a minority Tory government be able to pass anything through?  This surely can only lead to another election later in the year, I can't see any other resolution.

this is what i imagine will now happen

[Acidmouse]

It's a perfect result for labour, they were well behind in the polls for months, the tories were going to walk away with it. There is not a chance in hell the tories will want the electorial change the lib's will demand. If the Tories cannot get in at this time and fuked up country we are then when will they ever get a rullling majority?

lol at the brown hate, remember he saved the world

[Jon MW]

Without a coalition, will a minority Tory government be able to pass anything through?  This surely can only lead to another election later in the year, I can't see any other resolution.

It depends how much of a minority it is

There's a fair few abstentions on most votes and Sinn Fein don't sit in the commons, put that together with some of the smaller parties voting whichever way they actually agree with then over 300 won't be too bad and over 310 would be 'relatively' easy.

Still shortens the length of the parliament, but it might not be drastic.

[TightEnd]

It's a perfect result for labour, they were well behind in the polls for months, the tories were going to walk away with it. There is not a chance in hell the tories will want the electorial change the lib's will demand. If the Tories cannot get in at this time and fuked up country we are then when will they ever get a rullling majority?

lol at the brown hate, remember he saved the world

they would have got in massively on the English vote alone.

Scotland fked them up. I think that the scars of Thatcher are retained in Scottish voter memories far more than elsewhere, and the Tories remain unelectable there. Unlike Wales with seven gains, where results were a bit better

I think of all the three parties this result is worst for the Tories. They get all the apin, and no long term gain

[cia260895]

top 5 by votes:

con
lab
lib
ukip
bnp

bnp in 5th wow

[Claw75]

Sarah Teather wins Brent Central in a lib dem gain.  Tank will be pleased  

If I'm in the HoP and I have one shovel and one chance to hit someone in the face before I'm wrestled to the ground and shipped off to the mental home, it's going to be hard not to choose Sarah Teather...
 


Which epitomises eveything that's wrong with the libdems very existance. I should be using my shovel on someone that matters. 

[Claw75]

bnp in 5th wow

? did you think they'd be higher, or lower?