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« Reply #165 on: June 06, 2010, 11:04:13 AM »

Men “the Master” Nguyen was the winner of the 2010 Seven-Card Stud World Championship.  It marked his seventh career WSOP gold bracelet victory.
 
The native of Vietnam who now resides in Bell Gardens, California was one of poker’s most dominant players during the 1990s.  He has cashed in more than 100 major tournaments and won several distinguished titles, establishing a well-deserved reputation as one of the game’s most flamboyant and accomplished superstars.  But until tonight, Nguyen had not won a WSOP victory in seven seemingly endless years.

Nguyen added to his legacy by winning a $10,000 buy-in stud competition played over three long days and nights.  Nguyen topped a field which included 150 of the world’s best Seven-Card Stud players and ultimately won the game’s most coveted prize – adding yet another treasured memento to his jewelry collection.

The runner up was Brandon Adams, a Harvard PhD who has emerged as one of poker’s top players, although he has yet to have won a WSOP gold bracelet.  Adams battled Nguyen tough and managed to take a brief chip lead over his rival when playing heads-up, even though “the Master” was clearly an intimidating force during most of the finale, which was played in front of a huge gallery of spectators on the ESPN Main Stage at the Rio in Las Vegas.  

The final table also included Michael “the Grinder” Mizrachi and Vladimir Schmelev.  They became the first two players at this year’s WSOP to make multiple final table appearances.  Both final tabled the $50,000 buy-in Poker Players Championship, which ended five days earlier – finishing 1-2 respectively.

With his seventh victory, Nguyen joins Poker Hall of Fame inductee Billy Baxter and living legend Phil Ivey in a sixth-place tie for most WSOP career wins.
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« Reply #166 on: June 06, 2010, 02:41:09 PM »

Andy Ward has begun to track the fortunes of three groups of players on his blog (google secrets of the amateurs, highly recommended), in an aim to cut through the media spin and see who is doing what

These groups were

TV Pros : Benyamine, Bloch, Corkins, Cunningham, Ferguson, Greenstein, Hachem, Hansen, Hellmuth, Ivey, Lederer, Liebert, Lindgren, Matusow, Mortensen, Negreanu, Men Nyugen, Scotty Nguyen, Raymer, David Williams

Euro Pros : Akenhead, Bansi, Black, Channing, De Wolfe, Dempsey, Duthie, Eastgate, Grospellier, Jorgensen, JP Kelly, Kravchenko, Luske, Mahrenholz, Minieri, Moorman, Obrestad, Pescatori, Marty Smyth, Ulliott

2+2 + co : Aaron Gustavson, Andrew Lichtenberger, Christian Harder, Clayton Newman, Cliff Josephy, Eric Baldwin, Gavin Griffin, Jason Mercier, Jason Potter, Jeff Williams, Jon Aguiar, Justin Bonomo, Mike Watson, Phil Galfond, Randall Flowers, Shannon Shorr, Steve Gross, Steve O'Dwyer, Terrence Chan, Thayer Rasmusson.


After a week he reports

"WSOP Tracking Update : The Euro pros have flown out of the blocks with Praz ($500K) and Neil ($270K) picking up huge lumps and Flushy chip leader in the PL (1st is $190K) at time of writing. Massive congrats to all of them of course, three of the UK's very best tournament players. 2+2ers are only slightly down in buyins (normalising the effect of the $50K event somewhat) but $250k down in money terms, and TV donks, sorry pros, are $850k in the hole, muhahahaha. Guarantee you when one of them binks $300k it'll be "Year of the Pros !". GTFO. Biggest bracelet chasing hoes so far are Ivey, Raymer and Bonomo with 9 events each, closely followed by Lindgren and Negreanu with 8. Those 5 players have no cashes yet, that's right, 0/43. Yes, Hellmuth is only on 7 but he is slightly hampered by lacking that "get chips or get gone" mindset. And overall, the whole 60 players are about $400k down, that's including binks for $500k and $270k ! More description of random noise masquerading as analysis next weekend.

Update Sunday AM : I'm not going to do this every day, but as some events were ongoing when I wrote that ^^^, Flushy shipped it for $196k, congrats to a top player and top man ! Men the Master won the Stud for $390k (no editorial comment). Ivey and Lindgren cashed for $3K each. 2+2ers Terrence Chan and Jason Potter are in the last 20 of the Limit, gl to them. Pros now only $500k down and over all 60 players now $150k up.

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« Reply #167 on: June 06, 2010, 03:47:09 PM »


After a week he reports

"WSOP Tracking Update : .2+2ers are only slightly down in buyins (normalising the effect of the $50K event somewhat) but $250k down in money terms.


Love Andy's blog. This has probably just whoosed me but I don't get the above sentence in his round up, surely if 2+2ers are slightly down in buy-ins they can't be $250k down in money terms? In short what's the difference between buy-ins and money terms in this context?

edit: also strange that Dwan isn't included in tv pros or 2+2 etc as he could arguably fit into either, perhaps that's why he wasn't included?
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« Reply #168 on: June 06, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »

i think he standardise the buy ins for 1 part so if all the buy ins where same cost
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« Reply #169 on: June 06, 2010, 04:51:12 PM »


After a week he reports

"WSOP Tracking Update : .2+2ers are only slightly down in buyins (normalising the effect of the $50K event somewhat) but $250k down in money terms.


Love Andy's blog. This has probably just whoosed me but I don't get the above sentence in his round up, surely if 2+2ers are slightly down in buy-ins they can't be $250k down in money terms? In short what's the difference between buy-ins and money terms in this context?

edit: also strange that Dwan isn't included in tv pros or 2+2 etc as he could arguably fit into either, perhaps that's why he wasn't included?

Im assuming he means they are $250k down, which in reality is only 5 buy ins as most played the $50k event
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« Reply #170 on: June 06, 2010, 10:31:47 PM »

Yeah -5 BI could mean -$250k or -$5k.  So the buyin number is much more useful IMO.  OPR does ROI by $ where as sharkscope does it by buyins which is a much better way of doing it (esp for checking players who are staked for bigger buyin events and ran bad at them who end up having -VE ROI on OPR despite being v good players)
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« Reply #171 on: June 07, 2010, 09:41:47 AM »



Durrrr is in the last 3 now and Chris Matasow has said if Durrrr wins this the poker community wont have any money left,

I know he has some kind of sick prop bet on him winning one but does anyone have any links so how much money is on this??
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« Reply #172 on: June 07, 2010, 09:42:56 AM »



Durrrr is in the last 3 now and Chris Matasow has said if Durrrr wins this the poker community wont have any money left,

I know he has some kind of sick prop bet on him winning one but does anyone have any links so how much money is on this??

Not sure he has said the figure but he said it would be his biggest winning day ever, so if anyone knows what that was, its more than that
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« Reply #173 on: June 07, 2010, 09:44:59 AM »

Not sure if the figures are accurate, but the Durrr bet information was written as follows



Tom Dwan stands to make over $2 million in bracelet bets if he takes down a WSOP event this summer, the young pro has told Card Player. Phil Ivey and Daniel Negreanu are amongst the high stakes pros getting in on the action.

“Phil (Ivey) and Daniel (Negreanu) obviously bet against me, along with a bunch of other high stakes live pros,” said Dwan, who is taking minimum bets of $5,000.

The New Jersey pro is taking 3.25:1 odds from anybody that wants to bet against him on winning a bracelet this year. If the WSOPE counts, then he would only get 3:1. He also is taking 2:1 on winning two bracelets in three years with any bracelets won in London counting toward a chop

Not only is Dwan willing to bet on himself, but he is also giving others the option to bet on the likes of Ivey and Daniel Negreanu at 2:1 odds to outperform him at this year’s WSOP. If both Negreanu and Ivey win a bracelet and Dwan doesn’t, then Dwan would lose, and vice versa. If both parties take home some gold hardware, then the bet is a push and no money changes hands, regardless of multiple bracelet scenarios.

Dwan’s doubters also have the opportunity to bet against him by choosing any player in the field and Dwan will take 1.3:1 that he will have more cashes than that player.

Dwan is most widely known for his cash game prowess, but this bet has given him incentive to play a ton of events that he wouldn’t have competed in otherwise.

“I wouldn’t normally be playing the $1,500 events and stuff, but this year I’ll play some of them at least,” said Dwan. “Well, I’m probably going to play all of them and see what happens.”

Dwan has garnered a significant amount of action and could stand to win a decent chunk of change if he does take down an event.

“It would be worth at least $2 million this year to win a bracelet, maybe more,” said Dwan.

With all of the money he has riding on this year’s WSOP, Dwan’s cash game schedule will take a little bit of hiatus. He admits that he doesn’t think he will be able to put much of a dent in the “Durrrr Challenge” and will be putting in less volume than normal during the next few months.

Dwan may be showing his confidence by continuing to take bets, but he’s not publicly boasting about his chances just yet.

“Once I put that little gold thing on my wrist, I’ll be real confident,” said Dwan.
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« Reply #174 on: June 07, 2010, 10:00:36 AM »

Event 12 $1,500 Limit Hold Em Result

1     Matt Matros     189,870
2    Ahmad Abghari    117,272
3    Terrence Chan    83,185
4    Georgios Kapalas    59,838
5    Adrian Dresel-Velasquez 43,647
6    Jason Potter    32,281
7    Jameson Painter    24,198
8    Roberto Truijers    18,385
9    Mark Burford    14,149
10    Frank Kassela    11,027
11    Ben Lamb       11,027
12    Kirk Banks       11,027
13    Dean Tran       8,766
14    Amnuey Sri    8,766
15    Ilya Sheyn       8,766
16    Patti Gallagher    6,969
17    Jeff Neeman    6,969
18    Robert Stevanovski 6,969
19    David Chang    5,644
20    Hope Williams    5,644
21    Kurt Maier       5,644
22    Marco Traniello    5,644
23    David Cairns    5,644
24    Avi Mukherjee    5,644
25    Jim Geary       5,644
26    Andrew Kerstine    5,644
27    David Plastik    5,644
28    Malissia Zapata    4,623
29    Michael Ma       4,623
30    Matthew Keikoan 4,623
31    Joshua Cooper    4,623
32    Kiarash Hamadani 4,623
33    John McQuinn    4,623
34    Craig Repoz    4,623
35    Colin Maneval    4,623
36    Michael Miccio    4,623
37    Matthew Grapenthein    3,839
38    Jimmie Julion    3,839
39    James Meek    3,839
40    Ugur Marangoz    3,839
41    Ryan Bambrick    3,839
42    James Metcalf    3,839
43    Anthony Rivera    3,839
44    Darren Shebell    3,839
45    Serena Liu       3,839
46    Timothy Ebenhoeh 3,223
47    Andre Boyer    3,223
48    Jefferey Mervis    3,223
49    Tom McCormick    3,223
50    Ylon Schwartz    3,223
51    Gavin Sun       3,223
52    Jason Tam       3,223
53    Phil Ivey       3,223
54    Shawn Buchanan 3,223
55    Lennart Konst    2,742
56    Kenny Hsiung    2,742
57    David Gee       2,742
58    Eric Rivkin       2,742
59    Donald Sokol    2,742
60    Beau Yeoman    2,742
61    Erik Lopez       2,742
62    Curtis Green    2,742
63    Paul Evans       2,742
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« Reply #175 on: June 07, 2010, 10:05:22 AM »

Event 13 Day1b $1,500 NLHE

566 of 3042 Remain

Top Chip Counts
1    Jack Schanbacher 64,700
2    David Baker    60,950
3    Matt Vance    60,475
4    John Tare       57,000
5    Robert Bryan    55,100
6    Jason Jochem    46,075
7    Vincent Jacques    44,675
8    Burt Boutin    43,000
9    Sandro Giambouiui 41,450
10    Kevin Dwyer    39,375

Out includes  Phil Hellmuth, Chris Moorman, Michael Mizrachi, Jason Mercier, Bertrand Grospellier, Joe Cada, Annette Obrestad, Neil Channing          
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« Reply #176 on: June 07, 2010, 10:07:07 AM »

Event 14 $1,500 2-7 Lowball

12 of 250 remain


Nicholas Binger    212,000    
Mike Wattel    160,000    
Chino Rheem    155,500    
James Bord    141,500    
Yan Chen       110,000    
Todd Bui       92,900    
Alexander Kravchenko 67,000    
Derric Haynie    53,600    
Daniel Nicewander 52,100    
Scott Seiver    50,700    
Bryan Micon    35,800    
Sean Snyder    35,000
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« Reply #177 on: June 07, 2010, 10:08:46 AM »

Event 15 $10,000 7CS Hi Lo

136 of 170 remain

Top Chip Counts
1    Sirous Jamshidi    85,000
2    Alessio Isaia    82,000
3    Marco Johnson    76,000
4    Barry Greenstein    74,000
5    Phil Ivey    74,000
6    Max Pescatori    67,000
7    Eli Elezra    62,000
8    David Bach    60,000
9    Dan Kelly    58,000
10    Jennifer Harman    57,000
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« Reply #178 on: June 07, 2010, 11:15:47 AM »

Event 11 finished as follows

1     Simon Watt           614,248
2    Tom Dwan       381,885
3    David Randall       270,299
4    Austin McCormick    194,939
5    Jason Young       142,346
6    Michael Smith       105,185
7    Marvin Rettenmaier    78,681
8    Kyle Winter       59,547
9    Eric Ladny               45,603


Close then for Dwan, but no high stakes prop bet cigar. Yet.
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« Reply #179 on: June 07, 2010, 11:23:48 AM »

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For many of the 170 players who entered tonight's $10,000 Stud Hi-Lo event, the cards in front of them were little more than an afterthought. A distraction. The best they could do to keep their minds off the tens or even hundreds of thousands in prop bets they stood to lose should Tom Dwan win his first WSOP bracelet tonight.

As our Stud-8 players completed their last hand of the night, Dwan was all-in for the last of his chips and as he lost the final hand with Q-6 against Simon Watt's pocket nines, about half a dozen players from this tournament sprinted across the room to watch the board run out. When Watt's nines held, Negreanu and Matusow came running back to bag their chips flailing their arms and squealing like little kids as they narrowly avoided financial ruin.

Oh, as for the tournament we're supposed to be covering here? Approximately 112 of our 170 starters are bagging and tagging their chips and will return for Day 2 tomorrow at 3 p.m. Although bracelet winners Greg Raymer, Matt Hawrilenko, Annie Duke, Ted Forrest, Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi and Todd Brunson found themselves on the rail during the early levels, the field is still chock-full of poker luminaries, two of whom are sitting pretty near the top of the leaderboard. Phil Ivey ended the evening with about 109,800 in chips and right behind him is the tiny but mighty Jennifer Harman, who ended the night with 93,500. Also still in contention is defending champion Jeffrey Lisandro who has 40,500 in chips.
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